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re: Seems to me that if Gray is off the Adderall

Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:54 am to
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:54 am to
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I looked it up and hair is 90 days..yikes. I'm 99% sure hair isn't used in that instance but can you imagine how much weed would be found in testing by hair machine would break


no shite, and weed goes back 4-6 months
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:54 am to
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you calling me a liar Doc?


I'm telling you amphetamines don't stay in your system for a month.
Posted by swamie
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:55 am to
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I'm 99% sure hair isn't used in that instance but can you imagine how much weed would be found in testing by hair machine would break


Yeah, I doubt they used hair samples too. People would shave their entire body if they knew they were getting hair tested.
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:55 am to
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People would shave their entire body if they knew they were getting hair tested.


And they could still be tested
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:56 am to
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Yeah, I doubt they used hair samples too. People would shave their entire body if they knew they were getting hair tested.


they will dig in your skin to get the root of the hair...nasty stuff
Posted by swamie
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:56 am to
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I'm telling you amphetamines don't stay in your system for a month.


You want to clarify that or is that an absolute statement?
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:56 am to
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Are we still talking about Adderall?


Yes. If you don't really need it it will have a completely different effect on you.
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 9:58 am
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:56 am to
You do know adderal isn't first type of speed used though? All speeds are banned. And they take cycles. Vyvance is becoming more popular, concerta is around etc. it wasn't banned till somewhat recently. Adderal itself may be on rise because its the popular one now.

So if it wasn't banned there wouldn't be studies in sport to show how many take it. Now that its banned they look
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:57 am to
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Adderal itself may be on rise because its the popular one now.

So if it wasn't banned there wouldn't be studies in sport to show how many take it. Now that its banned they look


i know that but your buddy is claiming that people arent using it in sports
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:57 am to
Facts we know:

Gray has had a positive test for amphetamines administered by the MLB

Gray had no Rx for it

Gray took his finals a month ago

Amphetamines stay in your bloodstream for 2-4 days depending on metabolism,
Weight etc
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:58 am to
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You want to clarify that or is that an absolute statement?


Do I need to provide my DISA certification to you?
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 9:59 am to
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Facts we know:

Gray has had a positive test for amphetamines administered by the MLB

Gray had no Rx for it

Gray took his finals a month ago

Amphetamines stay in your bloodstream for 2-4 days depending on metabolism,
Weight etc


Which means he pitched in the regional on it.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 10:01 am to
Yep
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 10:02 am to
Search for "adderall use in baseball" and there are literally 100's of articles popping up

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Now, Jason Kendall’s divorce, could open the door to baseball’s new drug scandal. One person familiar with the situation told RadarOnline.com: “There is at least one pharmacy that I know of where many baseball players go to get their Adderall prescriptions filled. These guys are taking the drug to help them perform.

“This is baseball’s dirty little new secret and it’s about to be dragged out into the open.”
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 10:02 am to
Lets say it was 3-6 days it was in his system. He hears 5 days out on night off and partying the 3day rule. Takes one while out...

That's just as plausible as he only gets jacked up on game day. What time was the test taken? If very early am why would he take his speed so long before game time?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 10:02 am to
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“And among baseball players this statistic jumps to around 8%or 10% which makes no sense because it is more than twice the amount of ADD than in the normal population.

“And these diagnoses all came after amphetamines were banned.”

The doctor also points out it is unlikely for such a high percentage of athletes to be diagnosed with ADD as adults. “It is very unlikely to just get ADD,” Dr. Haraszti told RadarOnline.com.

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 10:03 am to
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Major league baseball players’ use of Adderall has multiplied by a factor of 4 since the league’s 2005 ban on amphetamines. Adderall is a psychostimulant that reportedly helps players concentrate and “lock in” as they play.

Posted by BGSB
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 10:04 am to
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Are we still talking about Adderall?


That was my experience with Adderall, yes
Posted by swamie
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 10:04 am to
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Do I need to provide my DISA certification to you?


Let's meet up at Red Star. You bring your papers, I'll ask my insurance agent for my test results.

Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 10:04 am to
Baseball has always been know for speed though in MLB. Even the Ruth days. Is everyday players drug not a pitcher.
I don't know why he's acting as if its a secret. In 2005 when it was put on banned list it was huge
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