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re: Seems to me that if Gray is off the Adderall

Posted on 6/6/13 at 12:50 pm to
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 12:50 pm to
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Adderal is coveted during finals week. He probably used it for finals. NBD

And what about the month after finals when he popped?
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 12:51 pm to
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Throw pill bottles on the field.


that's actually pretty funny

Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 12:53 pm to
And I'm pretty sure amphetamines are on the MLB banned substances list.

If you have a Rx to adderall in the MLB, you are legal. That's why after 2005, the players using adderall shot up 4x the amount that were previously prescribed.
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 12:53 pm to
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the point is, there are so many people in this thread and countless others on the same topic that seem to think a variety of ridiculous things, many untrue entirely and many attributing outlying effects on some people as the norm for all people. Another point being, there are too many people, like yourself, acting like you know the ins and outs of a drug without any real experience using the drug or any advanced education concerning the drug. Yes, we all know meth is a bad drug and people tweek out and act crazy while on it, but I'm not going to pretend like I know all the effects the drug has on most users because I saw a "meth kills" poster in a doctor's office and my friend in med school school told me "insert random effect."


Yeah, like I'm really going to believe some ADHD lawyer. And exactly how much more evidence do you need to know meth is bad?

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Like any drug, yes adderall can be abused, but people acting like it's a magical pill that makes you awesome at sports is stupid. I see you also ignored the fact about caffeine being a banned substance as well (it is). Adderall is not a banned substance simply because it is a huge performance enhancer. It's a banned substance because it's illegal for anyone to possess it without a prescription, just as are plenty of other drugs on the banned substances list.


This is the problem with you can't focus ADHD frickers. What does this have to do with caffeine? He didn't get caught using that without a prescription. I don't pretend to know everything about the drug. But tell me why was he taking it during a big series weekend? Tell me why you just can't possible bring yourself to believer it can help an athlete's performance?
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 12:56 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 12:59 pm to
Wait, do people actually believe that adderall isn't used by athletes??

I'd say that adderral is THE most abused Rx drug in sports.
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:02 pm to
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Wait, do people actually believe that adderall isn't used by athletes??

I'd say that adderral is THE most abused Rx drug in sports.


I'm not really sure what this guy's deal is to be honest. Seems like he selected me specifically to frick with but left people like you and red alone. I already admitted I just started reading about this shite last night after an m.d. friend told me why an athlete would use it.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:03 pm to
Athletes will use anything that they think will give them an edge
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:09 pm to
Oh I know that. In my JUCO days we had a guy that would eat live crickets before a workout because he saw some tv show about how they were so low in fat and high in protein and iron. He really felt like that gave him an edge. Dude also wore socks on his hands while taking bp.
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:13 pm to
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If you have a Rx to adderall in the MLB, you are legal.

That isn't 100% accurate. You have to get approval from a 3 expert panel now in order to be given an exemption.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:14 pm to
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That isn't 100% accurate. You have to get approval from a 3 expert panel now in order to be given an exemption.


Ok. Good to know
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:15 pm to
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Ok. Good to know

But still, like 1 in 10 are taking it

It must not be hard to pass the panel.
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 1:15 pm
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:16 pm to
Exactly!

Use is up 400% since 2005
Posted by stonedbegonias
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:18 pm to
I took an Adderall this morning and I started doing this, weird.
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:18 pm to
Posted by Zissou
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 1:19 pm to
Apparently the Astros have the first pick in the MLB draft tonight. I'm hoping they pick him first, let him celebrate tonight, and the Tigers will feast on the #1 overall pick tomorrow night.

Posted by lsufball19
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:43 pm to
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I'm not really sure what this guy's deal is to be honest. Seems like he selected me specifically to frick with but left people like you and red alone.


i didn't single you out in my first post in this thread. you chose to quote me and respond, so then i engaged in a conversation with you. not really that hard to grasp why it went the way it did.
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And exactly how much more evidence do you need to know meth is bad?

your reading comprehension is poor. i said "we all know meth is bad" but it would be ignorant to speak of all the various effects associated with meth because you heard it from someone else. again, not hard to grasp. (but you are grasping at straws)
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I'm not really sure what this guy's deal is to be honest. Seems like he selected me specifically to frick with but left people like you and red alone.


caffeine was used to show that just because a substance may be banned by the NCAA, it doesn't make that substance, in and of itself, bad. another elementary post you failed to comprehend
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I don't pretend to know everything about the drug. But tell me why was he taking it during a big series weekend?

do you have evidence that this is the only time he took adderall; know definitively when he tok adderall that resulted in his failed test; and/or why he took the adderall in the first place? this, again, is another assumption people are making. this was the first time he was ever tested this season. who's to say he wasn't taking it to study or pull all nighters all season long?
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Tell me why you just can't possible bring yourself to believer it can help an athlete's performance?

because i've taken adderall on days of games and found it to be more of a disservice than anything. yes, adderall boosts your energy in certain ways, but it is not something i'd advise taking if you're participating in an athletic competition. cocaine and EDMA are amphetamines that boost energy as well, but I wouldn't want to take them during a game either. just because athletes choose to use them doesn't make them overly performance enhancing. if they were overly performance enhancing, why would they be allowed even with a prescription in the MLB?

on the surface, it appears as if people are just complaining about it because they want an excuse ready to go if he comes out and has a dominating performance. Not saying everyone feels this way, but it definitely appears to be the case.
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 2:46 pm
Posted by fightingtiger2335
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:50 pm to
Ya I tried to explain how adderal can be bad for your performance on game days but they just ignore it.
Posted by redfieldk717
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 2:59 pm to
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Ya I tried to explain how adderal can be bad for your performance on game days but they just ignore it.



i agree with you, but it can also help...its all speculation and opinion in this guys case because we really dont know anything. can only make educated guesses really.
Posted by adono
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:03 pm to
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Who says he's off of it? There's literally no way to know that



I'd bet good money he isn't.

Why would he be? MLB can't do anything about it right now and he stands to make a few more million bucks if he shines from here on out.
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 3:03 pm
Posted by Tigerdew
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Posted on 6/6/13 at 3:10 pm to
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do you have evidence that this is the only time he took adderall; know definitively when he tok adderall that resulted in his failed test; and/or why he took the adderall in the first place? this, again, is another assumption people are making. this was the first time he was ever tested this season. who's to say he wasn't taking it to study or pull all nighters all season long?


Doesn't matter. He doesn't have a prescription for it so he shouldn't be taking it at all.

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because i've taken adderall on days of games and found it to be more of a disservice than anything.

Because you need it maybe?
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yes, adderall boosts your energy in certain ways, but it is not something i'd advise taking if you're participating in an athletic competition.

Ok. Tell that to the countless people doing it on the professional level on a daily basis.
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cocaine and EDMA are amphetamines that boost energy as well, but I wouldn't want to take them during a game either.

No shite.
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just because athletes choose to use them doesn't make them overly performance enhancing. if they were overly performance enhancing, why would they be allowed even with a prescription in the MLB?

Focus here. No one is saying it's overly performance enhancing. Only that it could help him. He took it last weekend around his regional start so he took it for some reason.

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on the surface, it appears as if people are just complaining about it because they want an excuse ready to go if he comes out and has a dominating performance. Not saying everyone feels this way, but it definitely appears to be the case.

For the record though, I want Gray pitching Friday. LSU has a ridiculous history of blasting 1st round picks.
This post was edited on 6/6/13 at 3:13 pm
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