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re: Sam Montgomery Status for 2011???

Posted on 2/4/11 at 10:13 am to
Posted by geaux99
Wamegeaux, KS
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/4/11 at 10:13 am to
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Sam Montgomery Status for 2011???


Mean and nasty.
Posted by mamoutiga
Lafayette, LA
Member since Sep 2009
951 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 10:17 am to
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They should change the rules completely, no going down at someones legs. I know it would be hard to police, but so many lineman get injured when they are block low(the knees or lower). Just my two cents

and we shouldn't allow tackling either!! While we're at it, let's put flags on everyone. No more playing on grass either..... oh wait turf is dangerous too...... what about that rubber stuff they put on basketball courts?
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 10:23 am to
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and we shouldn't allow tackling either!! While we're at it, let's put flags on everyone. No more playing on grass either..... oh wait turf is dangerous too...... what about that rubber stuff they put on basketball courts?



Not talking about tackling!!!! I am talking about blocking and blocking low at someones knees or lower. If you are talking about tackling, then all is fair game IMO. Again, we are talking about blocking here. If you are going to block, man up and block a guy high, not going low at his knees!!!
This post was edited on 2/4/11 at 10:24 am
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 11:09 am to
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Nissanmaxima

You are truly a naive douchebag
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 11:34 am to
Why do you have to add .24 to it?
Posted by musick
the internet
Member since Dec 2008
26131 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 11:38 am to
for the last time, he ISNT GETTING A MEDICAL REDSHIRT.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 11:38 am to
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jm3


Makes you feel like a big man with the name calling?
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:18 pm to
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I doubt he will get another year of eligibility since he was an all sec freshman after playing only 5 games which is insanely impressive in itself.

A student-athlete who has used his redshirt year must miss all or part of two seperate seasons to even be considered for a sixth season of eligibility.
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 12:39 pm to
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Makes you feel like a big man with the name calling?

Name calling does not make me feel better. However reading your posts reminds me of how naive and ignorant some people can be, and it makes me thankful that I am not. There is nothing dirty about a cut block made within the rules. Coach Miles even said that while the particular block made on Montgomery may have been a setup, he did not feel it was dirty.

Defensive players go through countless drills to counter the cut block and while i have enormous sympathy for what happened to Sam, you can't petition to change the rulebook and a particular dynamic of the game because your favorite player got hurt. What happened to Dorsey was beyond dirty, what happened to Sam was legal and clean
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 1:06 pm to
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reminds me of how naive and ignorant some people can be, and it makes me thankful that I am not



Says you? What else would you say?


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There is nothing dirty about a cut block made within the rules



Again, that is only my opinion that it is dirty to go low at someone's knees. We still live in America and have the right to voice your opinion.


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Defensive players go through countless drills to counter the cut block



I don't care how many drills you go through to counter the cut block, you never ever can be ready for that when you are going full speed in a game.


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because your favorite player got hurt



No one said it he is my favorite player. Thanks for your input. See no name calling here on my part.
This post was edited on 2/4/11 at 1:10 pm
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 1:27 pm to
I'm not saying your right to voice your opinion should be revoked. But that doesn't mean you're not naive. You have your opinion and its wrong and thats ok. You just come off as a whiner. And contrary to your opinion, you can be ready and expect a cut block going full speed and counter it. Not that sam shouldn't have expected that one, but you can't say it is dirty to cut
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 1:38 pm to
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But that doesn't mean you're not naive


Again, because it is your opinion on the topic makes it right, get a life!


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You just come off as a whiner



You come off as a know it all dickhead. How about that. Since you still can't get away from the name calling a-hole. I will play your game.

This post was edited on 2/4/11 at 1:48 pm
Posted by 41bengal
Da' Ville
Member since Jun 2009
2101 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 1:44 pm to
it's all about being ethical about the block. a lot of football players don't want to be hit below the knees cause that seems to be like someone went out the way to hurt them. if a defensive guy went below the knees of a qb he is called a dirty player(nick fariley). if a offensive guy went below the knees of a dlineman it is frown upon by defensive guys also. i played DE when i was in high school and most of the time you don't see the guy comin for your legs till its to late. and with that being said i would have been pissed off if it was me being injuried cause of a cut block.
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 1:51 pm to
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most of the time you don't see the guy comin for your legs till its to late. and with that being said i would have been pissed off if it was me being injuried cause of a cut block.



Thank you, that is all I was saying and this dude is going to sit here and try to say that they prepare because of countless drills they go through. I call total BS on that one. The cut block maybe with in the rules of the game, but like you said, no one who has ever played football takes to kindly to getting cut blocked at the knees.
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 1:51 pm to
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because it is your opinion on the topic makes it right

Its not because of my opinion that its right. Its because its still allowed in the rulebook that makes my opinion right
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
64590 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 2:00 pm to
Legal, yes. bullshite, in that he didn't have to hit that low, to be effective.
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 2:05 pm to
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no one who has ever played football takes to kindly to getting cut blocked at the knees.

that doesn't make it dirty nor is it grounds for the need to make it illegal
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 2:12 pm to
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Legal, yes. bullshite, in that he didn't have to hit that low, to be effective



Yep, it is a gray area on when should you cut block someone. That is why I said in one of my other post, to just man up and block a guy high. No, lets that the high road and cut someone at the knees because it is the easiest thing to do then it comes to blocking. All it takes is for your leg to be straight at the knee on a plant and bam, you are done! But it is legal lets not forget. I tell you what, go ask Sam how he feels about the cut block.
Posted by jm3
Member since Jul 2010
1459 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 2:15 pm to
I can imagine what sam feels. Ask Les how he feels. Probably terrible, but he said it wasn't a dirty block.
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No, lets that the high road and cut someone at the knees because it is the easiest thing to do then it comes to blocking. All it takes is for your leg to be straight at the knee on a plant and bam, you are done

A similar fact pattern would be tackling low. If stevan ridley were running at you full speed with his head down are you going to 'man up' and not go for his legs because thats the easy route?
Posted by Nissanmaxima
Member since Feb 2006
14928 posts
Posted on 2/4/11 at 2:30 pm to
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A similar fact pattern would be tackling low



No, those two, tackling and blocking are two totally different sides of football. When you are carrying the football you expect to get hit at all levels of your body with in the rules of the game. When you are being blocked or in the process of being block as a defender, if someone all of a sudden goes low on you, know way in hell you can expect that. No matter what you say about all the training one goes through to prepare for the cut block. As a defender your eyes are always on where the ball is, so you can no way in hell be prepared for some to all of a sudden take a shot at your knees. Look we can go back and forth on this all day, is it legal, yes, do I, myself agree with it, no. Does not mean that I am naive or a whiner as you so called me. Have a good weekend.
This post was edited on 2/4/11 at 2:32 pm
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