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re: Really? Jefferson is the problem?

Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:03 pm to
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Flynn shared more playing time with RP. RP had 75 passing att. Lee only went in when JJ was hurt. Lee had 40 passing attempts.

If you factor in their YPA that each missed to their backups; then you can add 506 more yards to

Flynn, and 296 yards to JJ

That puts Flynn at 2,910 yards, 29 TDS (3rd in the SEC for total yards)
Thats puts JJ at 2,458 yards, 19 TDS (still in last place for total yards in the SEC)


So, please stop it with this nonsensical comparison.


quote:

post the link bitch

or you're a liar


..that appears to be an extrapolation of stats for the two based on their stats that season and what they would have been if they did not miss time.

You're a fricking moron.

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
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Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:03 pm to
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In 23 passing situations 16 were 5 yds or less in the air.


I am neutral on JJ's first game. It was sufficient against a scrub team but will have to improve against better competition. He has to be more aware of the chains and his progressions. Herbie even mentioned his lack of going through his progressions.

First game, he looked good sometimes and looked average others. B- for a grade. He wasn't the problem, but was part of the problem in the second half. The second half was a total team failure and can't be pinned on one person.
Posted by Ryno_Kill
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:05 pm to
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no, where is the link that says flynn threw 29 fricking TD's in 2007

LINK

I don't know about this link but here is a link of bmy exaggerating the passing yards and low balling the interceptions on his projections of JJs stats this year. I can also provide a link of him stating how stupid it was to project stats after only one game this year yet in the prior link he seems to be fine with it.

LINK
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:07 pm to
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I don't know about this link but here is a link of bmy exaggerating the passing yards and low balling the interceptions on his projections of JJs stats this year. I can also provide a link of him stating how stupid it was to project stats after only one game this year yet in the prior link he seems to be fine with it.

Should you be posting? Aren't you enjoying your delicious crow right about now? - TheDoc
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:09 pm to
2001, u think this is just what we will have with JJ? I certainly do.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:11 pm to
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The TE was wide freaking open past the 1st down marker. There was no one within arms reach of him.


The TE was not open until the ball was in the air. I showed you this already. It looked to me like his read was left, TE, underneath.. exactly as it should have been.

This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 1:15 pm
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:13 pm to
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I don't know about this link but here is a link of bmy exaggerating the passing yards and low balling the interceptions on his projections of JJs stats this year. I can also provide a link of him stating how stupid it was to project stats after only one game this year yet in the prior link he seems to be fine with it.


I didn't exaggerate the passing yards by any means. I just multiplied it by 13, no big feat. I lowered the INTs because Jefferson simply doesn't throw many INTs, we know this from last season.

And on the other thread he was comparing an entire season worth of stats to one game. That's a shitty comparison. I wasn't comparing anything, I simply asked if Jeffersons stat line was X, would BT/whoever be happy with it.

Nice try though.
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:14 pm to
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The TE was not open until the ball was in the air.

So you agree that JJ panics, and doesnt wait for the play to develop
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:15 pm to
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So you agree that JJ panics, and doesnt wait for the play to develop



Clement didn't get open and Jefferson took what was available. That's all that happened. You can spin it any way you want but it doesn't make you look any less retarded.
Posted by TheDoc
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Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:15 pm to
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and what they would have been if they did not miss time.


so we're playing the If game now?

give me a break
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:15 pm to
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2001, u think this is just what we will have with JJ? I certainly do.


Sadly, yes.

He should have torn up a secondary with all backups.

He did make one big throw to Randle, but that play still worries me because Randle was immediately open and JJ delivered the pass late and he under threw it. People will say that he was under pressure, but, by being late on the throw, he brought that pressure on himself.
Posted by TheDoc
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:16 pm to
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TIsuGGER


still waiting for the link tigger
Posted by LSUAlum2001
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:17 pm to
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The TE was not open until the ball was in the air. I showed you this already. It looked to me like his read was left, TE, underneath.. exactly as it should have been.



Was he under pressure? No, but he immediately bailed to an underneath route instead of letting the other pass patterns develop.

..that underneath route would have been open a second later, too, but JJ already made his mind up to check down to the one route which wasn't guaranteed to get the 1st down.
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:18 pm to
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still waiting for the link tigger

I checked all the major grocery stores today, and dammit if you werent right.

Not a crow in stock

Who would have thought.





(Gawd, you're stupid)
Posted by Roaad
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Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:19 pm to
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quote:

The TE was not open until the ball was in the air.



So you agree that JJ panics, and doesnt wait for the play to develop

There is no winning with you guys.

He holds the ball too long. . .or he panics.

I thought he was making quicker decisions, and the team benefited.
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:19 pm to
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Was he under pressure? No, but he immediately bailed to an underneath route instead of letting the other pass patterns develop.

..that underneath route would have been open a second later, too, but JJ already made his mind up to check down to the one route which wasn't guaranteed to get the 1st down.



Really? There was a defender within arms reach of Jefferson when he threw the pass.

Had he held the ball and not made the play he would have been an idiot for not taking what was available. That's the rant for ya.
This post was edited on 9/6/10 at 1:20 pm
Posted by Ryno_Kill
Member since Jan 2004
2408 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:20 pm to
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I didn't exaggerate the passing yards by any means. I just multiplied it by 13, no big feat. I lowered the INTs because Jefferson simply doesn't throw many INTs, we know this from last season.


Whatever...You projected stats and adjusted them to make your point sound better.

quote:

And on the other thread he was comparing an entire season worth of stats to one game.
That's a shitty comparison.


And you where projecting a whole season worth of stats on one game.

Have a nice day!
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:23 pm to
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Whatever...You projected stats and adjusted them to make your point sound better.


Didn't. Those aren't even out of this world stats.. they're 'okay'.

quote:


And you where projecting a whole season worth of stats on one game.


Wasn't. I simply asked if that would be an acceptable stat line. I projected nothing. Wrong again, batting average has gotta be below .200
Posted by TIsuGGER
Member since Apr 2009
2321 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:24 pm to
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There is no winning with you guys.

He holds the ball too long. . .or he panics.

I thought he was making quicker decisions, and the team benefited.

You've got me curious. Exactly what would JJ have to do for you to get your hand out of his shorts? Obviously, he gets a pass from you on the option, any interceptions, intentional grounding, throwing short of the chains, maturation, leadership, total yards, and limited in going deep.

So What would it have to be?
Posted by bmy
Nashville
Member since Oct 2007
48203 posts
Posted on 9/6/10 at 1:24 pm to


As you can clearly see Jefferson could not have waited any longer without leaving the pocket.
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