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re: Quit bashing Miles
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:22 am to BlazinPurple
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:22 am to BlazinPurple
Salary reflects the expectation an entity has for the professional. He must expect a high level of scrutiny for poor performance. His performance in the whole process of the NCG was poor, plain and simple. This cannot be disputed. I do, however, feel that the group that is claiming he never was and never will be a good coach, and all that extreme jazz, are taking it a bit too far. He can't be perfect. He is human. I hope their employers don't manage them that harshly, if they even are capable of achieving his level of success, by comparison.
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Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:29 am to tjohn deaux
Certainly he should expect a high level of scrutiny for his performance (or lack thereof) but these entites also put forth incentive bonuses, in this case over a million of them. That's what makes the unwillingness (stubborness, I'll show them, whatever you want to call it mentality) that seemed to dictate his thought process so puzzling. Just kinda makes one wonder how mad the mad hatter really is imho
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 5:30 am
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:32 am to tjohn deaux
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I do, however, feel that the group that is claiming he never was and never will be a good coach, and all that extreme jazz, are taking it a bit too far. He can't be perfect. He is human. I hope their employers don't manage them that harshly, if they even are capable of achieving his level of success, by comparison.
Well, that's not really fair in comparison. Miles is paid elite money and when you are paid elite money you are expected to be elite. Most of us aren't expected to be elite.
He can make it happen, but don't think he can make it happen again like he did this season. Bama isn't going anywhere and Les will have to turn the offense over to someone who knows what they are doing.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:39 am to RogerTheShrubber
How is he not elite? This is getting ridiculous.
75-18
3 SEC West Titles
2 SEC Championships
2 Title game appearances
1 National Title
Just won UNANIMOUS coach of the year awards.
But he isn't elite? It was a horrible game. I'm not defending the game at all. But all this is just an extreme overreaction. We did win an SEC championship. Some of you are acting like this was such a terrible season. People need to get a grip, get some perspective and become reasonable.
75-18
3 SEC West Titles
2 SEC Championships
2 Title game appearances
1 National Title
Just won UNANIMOUS coach of the year awards.
But he isn't elite? It was a horrible game. I'm not defending the game at all. But all this is just an extreme overreaction. We did win an SEC championship. Some of you are acting like this was such a terrible season. People need to get a grip, get some perspective and become reasonable.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:41 am to BeeFense5
not bashing, agree totally with the great accomplishments. But I'm still puzzled as hell
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:44 am to cenla tigah
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not bashing, agree But I'm still puzzled as hell
Rightfully so. I am too. But there are many taking it too far.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 5:45 am
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:47 am to BeeFense5
who has the crystal ball not lsu,if you can't finish what you start then what do you play for pride,no championships.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:47 am to BeeFense5
agree totally
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:49 am to BeeFense5
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How is he not elite? This is getting ridiculous.
Elite is relative. He is paid to be elite, and will be judged on that basis.
The product Monday was surreal, and he deserves to be questioned. I doubt Les is an elite X-O guy, he is a great recruiter though.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 5:52 am
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:50 am to lsufan52
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who has the crystal ball not lsu,if you can't finish what you start then what do you play for pride,no championships.
The scrutiny will be worse next year, people will expect a championship. Let's see if Les can make the right decisions.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:54 am to BlazinPurple
Miles didn't fumble a snap (JJ).
Miles didn't false start (Hurst x 2).
Miles didn't miss a block.
Shoot, our offensive players were so bad in the 1st half that nothing was going to work, period.
Too many mistakes by our players.
That's not all on Miles.
Miles didn't false start (Hurst x 2).
Miles didn't miss a block.
Shoot, our offensive players were so bad in the 1st half that nothing was going to work, period.
Too many mistakes by our players.
That's not all on Miles.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:56 am to wheelz007
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That's not all on Miles.
Every bit of that comes down on the HC. Particularly when no changes appear to be made. The team was ill prepared and not ready for the big game.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:57 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:These are the types of statements I don't understand coming out right now. This year's team was a championship team. We won the SEC.
If Miles surrounds himself with competence and allows them to make decisions, his teams will again be championship caliber.
We lost one game Monday night, albeit in pretty demoralizing fashion, but so many on here are acting as if we had a losing season. Either that, or they've never given Miles the benefit of the doubt and were waiting for a chance to pounce.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 5:58 am
Posted on 1/12/12 at 5:59 am to wheelz007
miles didnt have the deer in the head lights look, miles didnt miss the only two opportunies he gave his qb to throw 20 yards down the field, miles didnt throw a pitch to the other team, miles didnt stand behind center for four quarters (between the seccg and ncg) and manage TW0 first downs, but he did choose to not use the backup generator when the main one went off line
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 6:01 am
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:01 am to Wideman
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We lost one game Monday night, albeit in pretty demoralizing fashion, but so many on here are acting as if we had a losing season. Either that, or they've never given him the benefit of the doubt and were waiting for a chance to pounce.
The expectations going forward will be for national championships, not anything less. Alabama was infinitely more prepared than LSU for this game and it had Miles signature all over it.
The talent level is such at LSU that they will be highly favored in all games except for one next year. LSU should win 11-12 games with this level of talent.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:02 am to RogerTheShrubber
quote:I can't disagree with anything here... but do you think Miles' signature was all over the rest of the season as well?
The expectations going forward will be for national championships, not anything less. Alabama was infinitely more prepared than LSU for this game and it had Miles signature all over it.
The talent level is such at LSU that they will be highly favored in all games except for one next year. LSU should win 11-12 games with this level of talent.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:05 am to Wideman
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I can't disagree with anything here... but do you think Miles' signature was all over the rest of the season as well?
Pretty much. Defensive domination and a grind it out, play it safe offense. The offense really wasn't required to do anything until Monday night. It was the first game it was really put to the test and failed miserably.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 6:06 am
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:06 am to RogerTheShrubber
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Well, that's not really fair in comparison. Miles is paid elite money and when you are paid elite money you are expected to be elite. Most of us aren't expected to be elite.
The comparison may not be the best, but my point is, too many people are using this game as their evidence that Miles is incompetent. One guy said there are dozens of coaches that can do better than Miles, and he could name them off the top of his head... He didn't name them. Bobby Hebert has NOT forgotten more about football than Les Miles ever knew. Miles has earned where he is, along with the opportunity for making some mistakes. I am in agreement with those who are baffled and disappointed with his handling of the QB situation, but I have to think that there are circumstances that we aren't privy to and may never be. But to call him incompetent, and an idiot, is a bit much. I don't think you have ever taken it that far, but some have.
This post was edited on 1/12/12 at 6:08 am
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:09 am to lsufan52
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i quit bashing the great les miles when he takes the blame for his part in the chaos in the locker room,causing several players wanting to leave,because of his love for jj.
please share with us your INSIDE information......you assume these things numbnuts.
besides, "the great les miles" just delivered a 13-1 season and SEC Championship. Please STFU kid.
Posted on 1/12/12 at 6:10 am to tjohn deaux
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The comparison may not be the best, but my point is, too many people are using this game as their evidence that Miles is incompetent
He isn't incompetent, and I don't think many believe that. He has obvious weaknesses though which were exposed down the stretch. He has a great opportunity next year to restore faith, this next team should be in a BCS bowl and honestly...one of the front runners for the NCG.
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