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re: QB update: Harris back out in Cali working with Whitfield

Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:25 pm to
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:25 pm to
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Skyler Green didn't know the plays his first year on campus. Saban told Jimbo to teach him one play and then run that play.


Not even close to the same situation.

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Harris didn't need to know the entire playbook. He needed enough to make himself dangerous. Then let the running game and the zone-read help him fake it until he made it.

Last year, Harris' inability to grasp the playbook is a failure of Les Miles and Cam Cameron's doing. Period.


That was my thing. Teach him 5 plays and let him actually run them during games. When he had those 5 plays then maybe add 5 more. There were plenty opportunities last year to get Harris reps.
Posted by tiger in the gump
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:25 pm to
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Last year, Harris' inability to grasp the playbook is a failure of Les Miles and Cam Cameron's doing. Period.


So if they redshirted Harris like most true freshman qbs do, would that be a failure too?
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:26 pm to
It didn't help him any last year.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:28 pm to
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It didn't help him any last year.


Oh look, another tard shows up with this witty shite.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:31 pm to
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Oh look, another tard shows up with this witty shite.
There is nothing witty or tardish about the truth. How is working with Whitfield going to help him this year?
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:33 pm to
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Skyler Green didn't know the plays his first year on campus. Saban told Jimbo to teach him one play and then run that play.

Harris didn't need to know the entire playbook. He needed enough to make himself dangerous. Then let the running game and the zone-read help him fake it until he made it.

Last year, Harris' inability to grasp the playbook is a failure of Les Miles and Cam Cameron's doing. Period.


Skyler Green was a wide receiver, not a QB. When a QB turns the wrong way on a handoff, that is a problem. In the SEC, you can't just tell a starting QB "run as fast as you can in a straight line" like I'm sure Green was told if that story has any merit.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 12:34 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:34 pm to
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How is working with Whitfield going to help him this year?


It won't hurt. Considering they can't work out with the actual coaches, what is wrong with getting some training in somewhere else?


If we were seeing pictures of him actually lounging at the beach or at parties, the threads would be the same level or retardedness, but in the other direction.
Posted by Loveland Tiger
Colorado
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:35 pm to
What kind of workouts? If I was his college QB coach, I wouldn't want different voices whispering ideas into the kid's head.
Posted by amiznit
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:36 pm to
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What kind of workouts? If I was his college QB coach, I wouldn't want different voices whispering ideas into the kid's head.
Whitfield and Cam Cameron go way back.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:36 pm to
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What kind of workouts? If I was his college QB coach, I wouldn't want different voices whispering ideas into the kid's head.


If it was Kiffin, you might have a point.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:37 pm to
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It won't hurt. Considering they can't work out with the actual coaches, what is wrong with getting some training in somewhere else?

Okay I'll give you that it can't hurt unless he gets hurt in some freak accident. I just doubt there will be any marked improvement.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:38 pm to
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There is nothing witty or tardish about the truth. How is working with Whitfield going to help him this year?


You're right. No one in the history of collegiate athletics has improved from their freshman year to their sophomore year.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:38 pm to
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I just doubt there will be any marked improvement.


If he was the eptiome of technique, you'd be right. You can always improve. And throwing the ball around is better than NOT throwing the ball around.
Posted by MightyYat
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:38 pm to
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Okay I'll give you that it can't hurt unless he gets hurt in some freak accident. I just doubt there will be any marked improvement.


You're awesome.
Posted by LSUTil_iDie
Lawrenceville, GA
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:39 pm to
Footwork, accuracy, pocket presence...nah I doubt those will help him. Complete waste of time
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:41 pm to
I swear, people wold probably be happier if he was in the hospital or something.
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:42 pm to
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You're right. No one in the history of collegiate athletics has improved from their freshman year to their sophomore year.
Okay. How much of his improvement be due to to Whitfield?
Posted by La Place Mike
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:43 pm to
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Footwork, accuracy, pocket presence...nah I doubt those will help him. Complete waste of time
And all of the improvement in these areas will be due to Whitfield?
Posted by MightyYat
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Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:44 pm to
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Footwork, accuracy, pocket presence...nah I doubt those will help him. Complete waste of time



And apparently Andrew Luck, Jameis Winston, Cam Newton, Bryce Petty, Donovan Mcnabb, Ben Roethlisberger, the 49ers, etc, have wasted their time also.
Posted by La Place Mike
West Florida Republic
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 12:45 pm to
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If he was the eptiome of technique, you'd be right. You can always improve
Sure you can always improve. My question is how much will be due to Whitfield?

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. And throwing the ball around is better than NOT throwing the ball around.
I already agreed with you. it can't hurt.
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