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re: QB update: Harris back out in Cali working with Whitfield
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:13 am to GeeOH
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:13 am to GeeOH
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And btw clowns, my milees comment was a backhanded joke. I don't care what MIles says or thinks. I have no doubts on where his qb developing skills rank. Do y'all?
just and FYI for everyone wondering....Miles' job isn't to develop QBs. thats why LSU hires QB coaches
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 10:16 am
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Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
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widely considered one of the best qb coaches on the planet
What if I told you something that is widely accepted was just the product of a successful marketing?
MySpace was widely considered the best social media "on the planet" a few years ago. Then something better came along with better functionality, features, ease of access, aesthetic, etc. Myspace support fell off at a ridiculous rate.
There was no difference in the myspace product. It was no better, and no worse.
The difference was in the unorthodox methods of Facebook and Twitter. Walls and Timelines took over. Likes, retweets, and favorites were in and comments and status sharing was out.
All three products served the same exact purpose, with the roughly the same success.The difference was the marketing and buzz around the NEW big thing.
George Whitfield is the current new thing, but at the end of the day the dude is just another QB coach. Give it time and someone new will pop up, that you will swear by the second they start generating buzz. However, the product will still be the same.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:26 am to SoberAg
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George Whitfield is the current new thing, but at the end of the day the dude is just another QB coach.
Thats not true. Whitfield works on correcting mechanics, footwork,and delivery for young qbs. Future nfl qbs dont go there for no reason.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:29 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Whitfield works on correcting mechanics, footwork,and delivery for young qbs. Future nfl qbs dont go there for no reason.
You missed the entire point of my post if you read that and this was your response.
You just described EVERY QB coach in history... Correcting mechanics, footwork and delivery are the BASICS of every QB coach out there.
What makes him different is the 'newness' and 'buzz'.
He is a QB coach, nothing more and nothing less.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:34 am to SoberAg
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What DOES make it special is the awareness and buzz it generates for the athlete, and the interest that surrounds swatting at QB's with broomsticks.
It's different. It's marketable. It's not necessarily effective.
Bruce Arians knows a few things about developing quarterbacks & he feels differently.
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According to Colts offensive coordinator Bruce Arians, who likely will be sending in play calls to Luck next season, that relentless focus on fundamentals is what separates Whitfield from other private tutors. He has no problem deferring to coaches who can teach his clients more about schemes and coverages -- Whitfield just wants to teach them how to throw. "A lot of young guys only think about schemes and never teach fundamentals," Arians says. "If you're seen as a schematic genius, that's how you move up in this profession. George is different."
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He's an agent - not a coach
Yeah, an agent doesn't help already established players who already have representation.
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When Ben Roethlisberger was suspended amid rape allegations in 2010, Whitfield flew to Pittsburgh. "In just those four weeks, there was a measurable difference," says Arians, the Steelers offensive coordinator at the time. "His footwork was cleaner, and his delivery was quicker."
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GTFO with this bullshite.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:40 am to BigBrod81
I think Whitfield banged this dudes ole lady or something
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:44 am to Rickdaddy4188
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What? Qbs arent as important if you out talent. The qb wasnt the best offensive player on any of Bama's and Auburn's recent sec title teams either.
Auburn has a offense were he doesn't have to be.
Alabama hired an OC because he knew a change needed to be made.
This would buy Miles 10 or 11 games a year and there's nothing wrong with that but I believe because of the coach's and the smaller talent gap that this may only buy you 7 to 9 games a year.
I hope I'm wrong but you want convince me other wise, it will have to play out on the field.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:47 am to SoberAg
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George Whitfield is the current new thing, but at the end of the day the dude is just another QB coach. Give it time and someone new will pop up, that you will swear by the second they start generating buzz. However, the product will still be the same.
You think Whitfield is the only person doing this? Do you think he was the first to do this? You are sadly mistaken. There's several of these personal QB trainers but there is a reason Whitfield is in high demand currently.
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Bob Johnson began training a rich vein of talent in Southern California as coach at Mission Viejo High School. Future NFL QBs Rob Johnson (his son), Carson Palmer and Mark Sanchez got instruction from the now 71-year old Johnson.
Super Bowl winning quarterback Trent Dilfer took over for Johnson as lead instructor of the Elite 11 franchise. That blossomed into a reality TV series that features some of the best youth quarterbacks -- and best quarterback teachers -- in the country.
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Steve Clarkson -- the "Dreammaker" -- has been carving out his own territory in Southern California for 30 years. His reputation is such that parents will pay thousands of dollars to fly in their sons, or to fly Clarkson to them, for personal instruction.
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"You get sick, you go to the doctor," said Jordan Palmer, who prepped last year's No. 3 overall pick Blake Bortles.. "I'm building the same business model … They give you a diagnosis and you leave with a prescription."
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There are others, scores of them now in a growing quasi-profession that sometimes thrives on how quickly you start an LLC.
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You sound really dumb & it might be in your best interest to simply bow out of this thread right now.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:47 am to Choctaw
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I think Whitfield banged this dudes ole lady or something
If he did, she would be able to throw just as well as if any other QB coach in the nation banged her.
And to the dude above you, thanks again for telling me that Whitfield stresses fundamentals. How innovating... lmao
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:47 am to Choctaw
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:49 am to SoberAg
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If he did, she would be able to throw just as well as if any other QB coach in the nation banged her.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:51 am to BigBrod81
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There's several of these personal QB trainers but there is a reason Whitfield is in high demand currently.
This my entire point...
LMFAO you just did a book report to prove a point that I agree with.
If there is reason that Whitfield is in high demand currently, then name it...
and if I was worried about my best interest I wouldn't be an Aggie posting in The Tiger Rant.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:54 am to SoberAg
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How innovating... lmao
Did Whitfield put you out of business or something? Why don't you go back to the SEC Rant with the rest of your dumbass Aggie friends?
Posted on 5/20/15 at 10:57 am to SoberAg
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If there is reason that Whitfield is in high demand currently, then name it...
I provided links. Read them yourself.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:15 am to SoberAg
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You just described EVERY QB coach in history... Correcting mechanics, footwork and delivery are the BASICS of every QB coach out there.
You have no idea what youre talking about. NFL qb coaches are coaching scheme oriented things. Nfl qb coaches are spending entire practices working on footwork and mechanics.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:17 am to PlaylikeJeter
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Auburn has a offense were he doesn't have to be
The qb is the most important position in the read option offense whether he is the best player on the offense or not.
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Alabama hired an OC because he knew a change needed to be made.
What? Bama was less successful when they went to a qb/ wr dependent offense.
This post was edited on 5/20/15 at 11:19 am
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:20 am to SoberAg
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MySpace was widely considered the best social media "on the planet" a few years ago. Then something better came along with better functionality, features, ease of access, aesthetic, etc. Myspace support fell off at a ridiculous rate.
So are you saying that something that is hailed as being good cannot necessarily be good for the simple fact that it is said to be? Your anecdotes do nothing to disprove Whitfield's ability to coach QBs. I hope you realize that.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:21 am to PlaylikeJeter
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hope I'm wrong but you want convince me other wise, it will have to play out on the field.
It has already played out and ive been proven right. Miles just gave lsu its most successful 10 year stretch in our entire history and the only year where tge qb was the best player on offense was 2006 Jamarcus.
Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:26 am to SoberAg
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George Whitfield is the current new thing, but at the end of the day the dude is just another QB coach. Give it time and someone new will pop up, that you will swear by the second they start generating buzz. However, the product will still be the same.
at you thinking Whitfield is "the current new thing." There's a reason why Andrew Luck, Cam Newton, Ben Rothlisberger, Donovan Mcnabb, Jameis Winston, Bryce Petty, etc, went to him. He's not doing anything earth shattering but he must be doing something. Posted on 5/20/15 at 11:35 am to SoberAg
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What makes him different is the 'newness' and 'buzz'.
He is a QB coach, nothing more and nothing less.
Or that he is good at it. Some people much more knowledgeable that you feel he is very good at what he does.
All club golf pros teach golf. However there is a vast difference in their abilities and their effect on their students. That's like saying Butch Harmon was just another golf pro, nothing more and nothing less. That is asinine. Whitfield has done what is necessary to be considered one of the best in his field, whether you choose to acknowledge it or not.
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