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re: QB debate should center around one thing: Offensive Production
Posted on 3/31/10 at 3:23 pm to TIsuGGER
Posted on 3/31/10 at 3:23 pm to TIsuGGER
quote:
2008 - RED-ZONE TOUCHDOWNS 35-47 74%
2009 - RED-ZONE TOUCHDOWNS 24-40 60%
2008 - Total Plays 886; Yards Per Game 368.1
2009 - Total Plays 771; Yards Per Game 304.5
now this is good stuff right here
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Posted on 3/31/10 at 3:25 pm to TruLsu
the General FTW
Posted on 3/31/10 at 3:42 pm to Boh
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the General FTW
Thats what confused my about the "look at JJs stats" crowd. He had a few columns where his individual stats were better than Lees, but the team stats are glaringly in favor of Lee.
I thought the purpose of the field general was to lead the team? Not post great stats.
I mean the guy with the best TD:int ratio in the nation was from Fla Atlantic with a 6:1 ratio, 141 passer rating, and a 60% comp rate. But his team finished 5-7, due to 137 yds per game passing.
And yet Colt McCoy had 12 picks/27 TDs this yr (2:1 ratio), and might have won the BCS, if he didnt get hurt
Posted on 3/31/10 at 3:44 pm to TIsuGGER
quote:just because a player had good stats means he obviously wasnt any type of problem.
Thats what confused my about the "look at JJs stats" crowd. He had a few columns where his individual stats were better than Lees, but the team stats are glaringly in favor of Lee.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 3:48 pm to TIsuGGER
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And yet Colt McCoy had 12 picks/27 TDs this yr (2:1 ratio), and might have won the BCS, if he didnt get hurt
Please tell me you are not saying Colt McCoy=JL
This is just ridiculous. do you not realize these are two different football teams between 2008 and 2009 check out the running game stats and that might be most of the reason our production went down.
Oh and another question, how many of McCoy's INT's were pick sixes? Also JL didnt throw 27 Td's to go along with his INT's so this arguement is null and void.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 3:55 pm to More beer please
quote:
Please tell me you are not saying Colt McCoy=JL
Wow, you're reading skills suck. I was comparing McCoy to the QB with the best TD:int ratio drawing the conclusion that we should be less concerned about those stats than the JJ crowd seems to want.
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Oh and another question, how many of McCoy's INT's were pick sixes?
Have no idea. But I bet all 12 resulted in a teammate tackling the interceptor, which is why they didnt become pick 6.
The pick is the QBs fault. Scoring a TD is on the team.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 3:57 pm to TIsuGGER
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The pick is the QBs fault. Scoring a TD is on the team.
with the exception of screen passes and quick outs being picked this is the damn truthPosted on 3/31/10 at 4:04 pm to TIsuGGER
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I was comparing McCoy to the QB with the best TD:int ratio drawing the conclusion that we should be less concerned about those stats than the JJ crowd seems to want.
So basically you are trying to justify JL's horrible stats by bringing in Colt whose team is FAR superior to ours right now. Great idea
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But I bet all 12 resulted in a teammate tackling the interceptor, which is why they didnt become pick 6.
The pick is the QBs fault. Scoring a TD is on the team.
Your right lets just throw those out then. Hell I could make a few more compelling agruements if we get to play the "blame it on someone else" game.
But a little food for thought, MAYBE MAYBE 1 or 2 of his pick sixes we actually had a chance to tackle the interceptor. So is it still the "teams" fault.
Ahh shite who am I kidding you JL supporters will never just admit he has a problem that will not go away.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:07 pm to More beer please
quote:i think a solid 5 of them the defender weaved throught the team, the only ones i recall where they didnt were georgia and 1 more but i cant remember who it was against..
MAYBE MAYBE 1 or 2 of his pick sixes we actually had a chance to tackle the interceptor. So is it still the "teams" fault.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:13 pm to Rohan2Reed
This....A pick six thrown versus hanging onto the ball too long and sacked for a loss...in terms of momentum which is worse? 
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:19 pm to LSUCanFAN
quote:i will def side with you on this one hopefully both qbs fix their probs and we dont have to worry about either next season
This....A pick six thrown versus hanging onto the ball too long and sacked for a loss...in terms of momentum which is worse?
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:20 pm to TruLsu
Spikes INT- never touched, Hitt dove and missed by 3 feet
Auburn- Touched as soon as he caught it while WR was falling....never touched or even close after
Only two I could find videos of and no one had a shot at tackling them.
Auburn- Touched as soon as he caught it while WR was falling....never touched or even close after
Only two I could find videos of and no one had a shot at tackling them.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:21 pm to More beer please
quote:
But a little food for thought, MAYBE MAYBE 1 or 2 of his pick sixes we actually had a chance to tackle the interceptor. So is it still the "teams" fault.
How about some facts for thought? The avg return on the pick sixes was 43 yds. No typo. 43 yds per pick six. Five of them were at, or beyond midfield.
Yeah, thats not on the team.
:sheesh:
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:24 pm to More beer please
quote:
More beer please
"you JL supporters"... are you suggesting that if someone would rather JL in that they can't support the team with JJ in? this is all just ranting and opinions on here but you should know that you are actually much less of an LSU fan if you don't support whomever the QB is (JJ or JL)
keep being a "JJ supporter"
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:24 pm to More beer please
quote:this is the one i couldnt remember, all the others im fairly confident the defender just weaved throughout the team and i just overlooked the auburn int. either way picks are bad pick 6 are even worse, i just think dont honestly believe Lee will repeat the pick 6 part of it, im sure he will throw some ints, he takes a lot of chances and being he has had 2 more springs and a season of backup i would assume his decision making skills have improved. I certainly hope so atleast
Spikes INT- never touched, Hitt dove and missed by 3 feet
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:25 pm to RobbBobb
Go look at the videos and dont just throw out numbers. Yeah sure the avg yds on the return was 43 yards but that doesnt mean he caught it 43 yards behind our line. Most of those were caught within 10-15 yards of the line of scrimmage which means all they have to do is get past lineman. Dont try and skew the numbers to make it look like they always caught it on the opposite side of the field and ran through our entire team.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:26 pm to More beer please
quote:i specifically remember this happening on the second against UGA the one against BAMA and the one against Troy
Dont try and skew the numbers to make it look like they always caught it on the opposite side of the field and ran through our entire team.
This post was edited on 3/31/10 at 4:27 pm
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:27 pm to Boh
I support JJ as the starter and not JL. With that being said I will cheer for whoever goes out there. I was not/am not one who boos. I just think JJ will give us the better chance to win.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:27 pm to TruLsu
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i just think dont honestly believe Lee will repeat the pick 6 part of it
Thought so too until the spring game.
Posted on 3/31/10 at 4:29 pm to More beer please
quote:screen pass in which Loston made an absolute brilliant play on the ball. He had to know it was coming, seeing the safety was cheating to the line and broke on the ball before randle broke on the route
Thought so too until the spring game.
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