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re: Please help me set my expectations

Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:55 pm to
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24238 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 8:55 pm to
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Besides your K-State unicorn, what coach was going to do better at bringing in players to the program this past summer? Do you know of a coach that could bring in a talent like KJ Williams? I guess you know of someone who could bring in 2 or 3 players with the talent of KJ Williams? I find it hilarious that mouth breathers think that it is so easy to rebuild a program with zero players and ZERO recruits.

Arizona? They had a guy go to jail. Hell, Wade may be coaching again NEXT season somewhere.

He brought in a Top 20 class (17th) that contained 3 6’10” players 2 4* and 1 3* and a 4* swing man.

He brought with him 3 starters from a team that went to the second round of the NCAA tournament and won 31 games.
Don’t give me that shite about not having talent.
There was Miller and Wilkinson. By all accounts Miller would have started on last seasons LSU team and Wilkinson is a 40+% 3 point shooter for his career (every season above 40%).

I don’t buy this taking 4 years and “how mad the program was” for the lack of effort and development of the freshmen. They are getting killed inside while the 6’10” 255 lb freshman is on the bench.

Get out of here with that crap you’re typing.
Hell I’ve seen MULTIPLE teams starting freshmen including today with TTU having 2 starting and playing significant minutes.
Posted by Lsutigerturner
Member since Dec 2016
5739 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:12 pm to
Good start would have been to keep the best basketball winning coach we have arguably ever had as the head coach.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35364 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:18 pm to
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Arizona? They had a guy go to jail. Hell, Wade may be coaching again NEXT season somewhere.
If you really think Wade will be coaching anywhere in college anytime soon, then you are full on delusional.

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He brought in a Top 20 class (17th) that contained 3 6’10” players 2 4* and 1 3* and a 4* swing man.

He brought with him 3 starters from a team that went to the second round of the NCAA tournament and won 31 games.
Don’t give me that shite about not having talent.
There was Miller and Wilkinson. By all accounts Miller would have started on last seasons LSU team and Wilkinson is a 40+% 3 point shooter for his career (every season above 40%).
Yes. That is what McMahon brought in. My question was what coach you think could have done better. Also, while you are at it, maybe you can tell us who coached that tourney Murray State team last year that he pulled 2 (not 3) starters from.

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I don’t buy this taking 4 years and “how mad the program was” for the lack of effort and development of the freshmen. They are getting killed inside while the 6’10” 255 lb freshman is on the bench.

Get out of here with that crap you’re typing.
Hell I’ve seen MULTIPLE teams starting freshmen including today with TTU having 2 starting and playing significant minutes.
And we have one freshman getting good minutes. Can't tell you what is going on with Ward, but do you really think that McMahon is purposely tanking games or something?
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
35364 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 9:20 pm to
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Good start would have been to keep the best basketball winning coach we have arguably ever had as the head coach.
That is on Woodward as to how it went down, but the violations and Wade giving everyone the finger really left him with no choice. At best he could have let him say goodbye to the team and committed recruits, but that is over now.
Posted by Tiger1988
Houston
Member since May 2016
24238 posts
Posted on 1/28/23 at 10:04 pm to
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If you really think Wade will be coaching anywhere in college anytime soon, then you are full on delusional.

You didn’t respond to the Arizona coach as a program after their coach was fired and assistant went to jail.
I was asked about KSt, well Arizona did even better. Why does it take 4 years?

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That is what McMahon brought in. My question was what coach you think could have done better. Also, while you are at it, maybe you can tell us who coached that tourney Murray State team last year that he pulled 2 (not 3) starters from.

How many players are on the floor at the same time? The point was these 3 knew his system and the guard particularly does. Come on man. He has talent. A 7 man rotation wins a lot of games.

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And we have one freshman getting good minutes. Can't tell you what is going on with Ward, but do you really think that McMahon is purposely tanking games or something?


In no way am I suggesting he isn’t trying. What I am saying is this team has zero energy. There is PLENTY of talent. PLENTY. Just play and lose with the freshman. At least they will get some PT and adjusted.
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