re: Please Explain This to Me

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Gene, I hear you but may I ask in your opinion how would we know if there was actually a situation where it wasn't a giant pharmaceutical conspiracy? Like how would things look different in an alternate reality where there actually was a deadly pandemic that was killing 1500 Americans every day but we were dealing with a huge chunk of the country who didn't buy it and were refusing the vaccine?

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Look..the real problem is that Government inherently thinks citizens are too stupid to know what’s good or bad for them..and that government is the answer. I look around and see no one dying in my neighborhood from Covid..no one at a 500+ facility I work at dying..no one from numerous large facilities that friends and family work dying. The average age of death “with” Covid is 80…same as average age of death “without” Covid.

I guarantee you if people were seeing healthy, not -so -old friends, co-workers, neighbors, and family dropping dead…most everyone would be lining up for the jab. It really isn’t that scary.

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I'll play your game- At what point does everyone get there freedom back again? You're telling me people are just going to have to wear a mask everywhere for the rest of time? you're going to have to show your vax papers everywhere you go? That's not America and if you think that's okay then you can go frick youself.

I am vaxxed BTW but refuse to show my "Papers" to anyone for entry anywhere. It's none of their fricking business.

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Well look, dv freak, don't loop me into some narrative of your image of a boogey man liberal. That's not me. No I'm NOT telling you any of that stuff. And believe it or not I too do not want to live in a world where I have to wear a mask the rest of my life.

This is kind of the whole point I'm trying to make, everyone gets their freedom back when we stop this spread because enough people are frickin vaccinated and the thing is mutating in ways that don't affect the vast majority of the public. Eventually, one way or another, this thing WILL come to an end. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

But then no one will give a shite about your vax card or wearing masks. This is the thing I'm trying to say... no. one. likes. the masks.

All I know is it’s a 100 million dollar business these days so those in charge should think carefully in their decision making.

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I look around and see no one dying in my neighborhood from Covid..no one at a 500+ facility I work at dying..no one from numerous large facilities that friends and family work dying. The average age of death “with” Covid is 80…same as average age of death “without” Covid.

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exactly.

I know of only 1 person that died of Covid. He was my uncle, and was upper 70s with a heart condition.

The people that are dying are old, unhealthy folks. Still very sad, of course, but this virus is a tiny risk to the vast majority of the population.

Time to get back to normal, and I mean 100% normal.

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everyone gets their freedom back when we stop this spread because enough people are frickin vaccinated and the thing is mutating in ways that don't affect the vast majority of the public.

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this is sickeningly scary that you believe something like this.

And who decides when the "spread is stopped" and we can "get our freedom back? Politicans? Seriously?

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I just want my life back, without the cost of human life.

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ok, then let's shut down all motor vehicle traffic, because that kills 40,000 Americans every year and injuries many times more.

Let's also lockdown the country over seasonal flu, because that kills 40-80,000 Americans every year.

Life has risks, and the world can't shut down over them.

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This is kind of the whole point I'm trying to make, everyone gets their freedom back when we stop this spread because enough people are frickin vaccinated and the thing is mutating in ways that don't affect the vast majority of the public. Eventually, one way or another, this thing WILL come to an end. Hopefully sooner rather than later.

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Dude- it's not the governments responsibility to decide when people get there freedom back. If people want to live their life in fear and shut up in the house all day, that is A OK with me. It's their choice. Now if a private business wants to put these mandates into place.. that's fine I just won't go. I think it's sad that they'd make that decision though because this whole thing obviously hurts revenue and i'm tired of seeing good/fun places get shut down in this city that's already kind of a shite hole.

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This is according to the CDC: estimates per year... 2017-2018 ... 61,000 2018-2019 ... 34,000 2019-2020 ... 22,000

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And that's without shutdowns and mask mandates. Corona is 600,000+ with shutdowns and mask mandates. Some will never understand.

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If you want to go in their place of business actually it is in their place of business. Otherwise you can stay home where it is nobody's business but your own.

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You realize that’s what he’s sayin right?

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I corrected what I was trying to say.

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I really think the guy you were responding to was saying that he understands it’s their business and that he’s just not gonna give them his business if they force people to prove they’ve been jabbed. Maybe I’m wrong.