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re: Pep Levingston injury
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:17 pm to ProjectP2294
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:17 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:When was this decided?
Aghayere is Pep's backup
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Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:18 pm to tigerjake
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a jump over Clement and Aghayere
man, I think these two cats have been disappointing...I hate to say it
Chancey seems sluggish and maybe lacks the fire from what I've seen in those videos (I know you don't see a lot, but there have been a lot of them). And Clement appears to be a helluva athlete but just not quite getting it done at DE
Hope I'm wrong ...not to discredit Brockers, who looks as good as an 18yo SDE can look in a uniform, as well as the drills I've seen. That cat is a man
This post was edited on 8/23/09 at 7:19 pm
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:19 pm to Fisticuffs
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man, I think these two cats have been disappointing...I hate to say it
Chancey seems sluggish and maybe lacks the fire from what I've seen in those videos (I know you don't see a lot, but there have been a lot of them). And Clement appears to be a helluva athlete but just not quite getting it done at DE
Hope I'm wrong
well i doubt they will play very much if they don't produce - Brockers and Montgomery are breathing down their necks
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:19 pm to ProjectP2294
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I think it's more that Edwards is Alem's backup and Aghayere is Pep's backup. Edwards is the quicker of the two, and they may not want both him and Alem on the field at the same time unless it is a passing situation.
Maybe so, but it's clear that Edwards is our #3 DE right now. And it's not like Aghayere is going to be more of a beast against the run than Edwards. Edwards was playing well at DT in the spring, before he slimmed down.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:20 pm to Fisticuffs
wtf??? they are disappointing?
They are RS Freshmen. They have not even played a snap yet. what are you basing this on?
They are RS Freshmen. They have not even played a snap yet. what are you basing this on?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:21 pm to hobo with a rolex
quote:You're right.
Brockers and Montgomery are breathing down their necks
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:21 pm to ColtsTigers
quote:
I would expect Edwards to get the nod instead of Chancey. Sounds like too many people on here just going off of recruiting hype.
no, I think Edwards is BETTER ..but I think they have Edwards in the role backing up Alem
Obviously that could change and is a fluid deal, but I think Chancey was the SDE 2nd teamer through last week
I like Edwards...but he has even been nicked and had to miss some time
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:23 pm to ProjectP2294
It should be interesting to see how it lines up this week. Brockers got a lot of pub after the scrimmage, so who's to say that he doesn't line up ahead of Chancey this week?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:24 pm to ColtsTigers
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And it's not like Aghayere is going to be more of a beast against the run than Edwards
I think Chancey is pretty strong..probably plays stringer than Lavar
quote:
Edwards was playing well at DT in the spring, before he slimmed down.
yeah, but like you said, he lost a weight like he gave birth to a jockey ..he's got a washboard stomach now
With his athleticism I think he'll be counted on as more of a pass rusher...could be wrong of course
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:24 pm to sixer
quote:Its not that they can't get better, but it sucks that they've been in the system for a year, and a true freshman comes in and looks better before the first game has been played. I think its a little of both Brockers is damn good, and the two RS Freshman have taken some time to develop.
wtf??? they are disappointing?
They are RS Freshmen. They have not even played a snap yet. what are you basing this on?
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:24 pm to sixer
quote:
wtf??? they are disappointing?
They are RS Freshmen. They have not even played a snap yet. what are you basing this on?
I knew this post was soon to come...
again, I hope I'm wrong
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:26 pm to ColtsTigers
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Brockers got a lot of pub after the scrimmage
the question is: How much of this was Les's agenda?
when you know Pep is hurt and are thin at SDE it is convenient to say how good Brockers is doing
just saying it's possible the positive spin that the coaches are putting out on Brockers may have to do as much with the state of affairs as that position
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:26 pm to ColtsTigers
quote:
Brockers got a lot of pub after the scrimmage, so who's to say that he doesn't line up ahead of Chancey this week?
he definitely might, and based on the hype from Miles, he should, but they play the same position. I'm just saying that they divide up the DEs into two different positions and they aren't necessarily interchangeable.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:27 pm to ProjectP2294
quote:I understand that, but the position battles are not decided yet.
This is the depth chart from rivals. I know it probably isn't 100% accurate but even if Aghayere isn't the first backup at Strong DE, that is still the position he plays, while Edwards is more of the speed DE.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:28 pm to Fisticuffs
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yeah, but like you said, he lost a weight like he gave birth to a jockey ..he's got a washboard stomach now
With his athleticism I think he'll be counted on as more of a pass rusher...could be wrong of course
Losing weight doesn't mean losing strength. Edwards was strong enough to push Hitt back into the QBs mug on one play in the spring game for what could have been a sack.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:28 pm to Fisticuffs
quote:This info on Brockers, is coming from more sources, than just Miles.
when you know Pep is hurt and are thin at SDE it is convenient to say how good Brockers is doing
just saying it's possible the positive spin that the coaches are putting out on Brockers may have to do as much with the state of affairs as that position
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:30 pm to tigerjake
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two RS Freshman have taken some time to develop.
the problem with Chancey is he was a finished product as a junior in high school.. he was a can't miss guy with great explosion -- then he hurt his knee and his senior season production dropped WAY off
Who knows if Chancey is a great prospect anymore..he certainly looks a lot heavier on his feet and alot more sluggish than he appeared in his videos from his junior season in HS
I think Chase was always a project...just a big-strong athletic kid ..maybe similar to Al Woods in that he looks like a great prospect on paper. He even has the pedigree to be one.
But where can he play and be effective? He needs help before he'll be a good DE IMO... maybe his real future is as a blocking TE
we'll see
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:31 pm to tigerjake
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I understand that, but the position battles are not decided yet.
I get that, I'm not commenting on how deep they fall on the depth chart, I'm commenting on which pool they're in, so to speak. I don't think that Edwards and Agahyere are in the same pool, just like Brockers and Montgomery aren't. But Brockers, Aghayere and Pep are all in the same pool. And Alem, Edwards and Montgomery are in the same pool.
FWIW, Edwards probably could play both, and like I said, he will probably be the SDE in passing situations.
Posted on 8/23/09 at 7:32 pm to ColtsTigers
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Losing weight doesn't mean losing strength. Edwards was strong enough to push Hitt back into the QBs mug on one play in the spring game for what could have been a sack.
you lose 30 pounds and you will lose some leverage
either way, my point is I think Chancey plays stronger based on some limited video I've seen...who knows
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