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re: Penn St. Favored Over LSU

Posted on 12/8/09 at 1:58 pm to
Posted by HDTigers
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 1:58 pm to
yea im sure paterno will be the one 'coaching' penn st til their bowl game
Posted by Nittany Lion
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 2:01 pm to
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yea im sure paterno will be the one 'coaching' penn st til their bowl game


Galen/JayPa and Bradley will hopefully do alright. Joe gets final say and gets to overrule any and all play calling. Which is fine...I'd rather he be a head coach than a coordinator. That's why most of the coaching staff has been here as long as they have (most 20 years or more...some 30+ years.)
Posted by LSUtigahs28
Member since Sep 2008
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 2:13 pm to
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The spread is somewhat meant to even the betting but a lot of times Vegas knows a team will be bet on much more than the other so they can cheat the line in their favor by a pt or 2


There are cases when an inequality in fanbase will affect the line, but in cases when both are large BCS caliber fanbases it isn't likely to affect the line by more than a point.
Posted by HDTigers
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 2:25 pm to
the public has their own perception of teams

when the public really likes one team and that team should be getting 4 pts, vegas gives them 2.5 and everyone still bets them +2.5
Posted by LSUtigahs28
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 2:31 pm to
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the public has their own perception of teams

when the public really likes one team and that team should be getting 4 pts, vegas gives them 2.5 and everyone still bets them +2.5


The public perception right now is that the Big X is crap. I've seen no reason to believe that the public loves Penn St.
Posted by HDTigers
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 2:34 pm to
exactly, everyone is taking LSU +2.5


wouldn't surprise me if vegas thinks we should be getting more
Posted by LSUtigahs28
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 2:37 pm to
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exactly, everyone is taking LSU +2.5


Which is why I implied the original line was built upon Vegas's analysis of the teams.

The SEC generally gets favored because the public believes their teams are better on average than teams of other conferences. A Vegas breakdown of the two teams is the only reason I see that it opened -2.5
Posted by HDTigers
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 2:38 pm to
yea, which goes against the people who think vegas's goal in EVERY game is to make it 50/50
Posted by lyndell18
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 2:51 pm to
LSU on the moneyline!!!!!! All day!!!!
Posted by Analyze That
ThereAndBackAgain
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 3:19 pm to
Hahaha!

You're kidding?

Its the Big 10! Might as well call it the MAC
Posted by Poodlebrain
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Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 12/8/09 at 5:11 pm to
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Never believe this. Vegas takes stands on every game. They just figure they will get their juice by winning 50% of the games.

Sportsbook directors know better than to think they can pick winners better than the public. They will take stands on a few events, but they know that the sportsbook's income is based on vig volume rather than successful handicapping because even picking 50% winners is not guaranteed, and what if you do pick 50% winners but for the same events the 55% of the public also picks the winners? Or what if the favorite, in terms of money being bet, wins 60% of the events you win? In either event the sprotsbook will likely lose money from taking stands.

Having worked with successful sportsbook directors and meeting some others I know that they make house bets on relatively few events. And those occasions are often based on information not available to the general public.
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