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re: Over the past few years, LSU athletic programs have become quite...average.

Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:13 pm to
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:13 pm to
I truly enjoy the "if you don't like mediocrity, stop donating and get a life" crowd.

And they think it's a solid position.

This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 8:14 pm
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:18 pm to
Well if you keep supporting the team then your wallet is supporting the coach that you guys want out.

I think it is fairly simple. no changes will be made as long as it is making money.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:22 pm to
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Mett was subbed out with 11 minutes left in the 3rd quarter in my example. Coker came in with 5 minutes left in the 3rd. how is that different?


Coker threw 8 passes in 20 minutes. Jennings threw 1 pass in 26 minutes.

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Coker has played in 4 games this year. Harris has played in 8. Coker also is a transfer that played in 6 games the year before for FSU.


And what is that supposed to mean exactly? That Coker is experienced?

Ok fine. Jennings played in 9 games last year. So therefore, according to your logic, the inexperienced excuse people keep using for Jennings this year is complete bullshite, right?

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anything else?


Yes. A request that you makeup your mind which argument you're trying to make.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:28 pm to
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Well if you keep supporting the team then your wallet is supporting the coach that you guys want out.

I think it is fairly simple. no changes will be made as long as it is making money.
So it's not mutually exclusive? The only option is to stop the support?
Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:29 pm to
I said the rankings doesnt mean our offense sucked last year. That was my original argument.

you said that bama fans wont complain about experience when i simply pointed out our true frosh qb as had more experience this year than coker has received this year. Oh and coker is a JR.

I never bitched about jennings inexperience. The guy isnt good, plain and simple.

Posted by dgnx6
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:29 pm to
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So it's not mutually exclusive? The only option is to stop the support?


Im just saying that the argument isnt that silly. You can do what you want with your money. the reality is these coaches most likely arent going anywhere unless money is affected or Alleva hits the road. Probably need both.

This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 8:32 pm
Posted by Datbayoubengal
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:32 pm to
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So last year's SEC offensive records just go away


No offense but getting paid a cool mill to run an offense, it should never look as bad as ours does. I mean we are on some Vandy type shite, Actually, minus last year, Vandy has been better in offensive production over the years Franklin was here.

Seven points against a terrible Auburn D, 0 points against a meh Arkansas. We've scored two TDs combined in the last 4 weeks.
Posted by drizztiger
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:36 pm to
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Im just saying that the argument isnt that silly. You can do what you want with your money. the reality is these coaches most likely arent going anywhere unless money is affected or Alleva hits the road. Probably need both.
I get where you're coming from, but I think the argument is inherently silly.

It's basically, "if you don't like it, stop caring."

I'm not sure that has ever solved anything.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:37 pm to
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I said the rankings doesnt mean our offense sucked last year. That was my original argument.


Who was saying it sucked? From what I recall, the pumpers' "record breaking offense" response was being refuted with rankings to show that the offense last year was merely average. I don't think anyone said it sucked.

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you said that bama fans wont complain about experience when i simply pointed out our true frosh qb as had more experience this year than coker has received this year. Oh and coker is a JR.


That's a completely different topic, with the point being that just because miles chooses to waste valuable opportunities for backups and younger players doesn't mean other coaches do.

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I never bitched about jennings inexperience. The guy isnt good, plain and simple.


I'm just trying to clarify. Based on the parameters you set for Coker, Jennings is experienced. Correct?
Posted by robins08
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:39 pm to
I'm old and you are young . I lived through the McClendon , Dinardo , and Hallman years . The grass is not always greener on the other side young Jedi knight .
Posted by White Tiger
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:41 pm to
Why are you focusing on such negative things. Look at the program in its entirety-say from 1861...
Posted by dgnx6
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2006
68466 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:44 pm to
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I'm just trying to clarify. Based on the parameters you set for Coker, Jennings is experienced. Correct?


the guy has had ample time to show what he can do. And this is to make a few nice passes here and there but overall be a poor decision maker with the ball. I was just refuting your point that Miles has wasted giving guys experience. And maybe sucked was a strong word, i did see mediocre thrown around about last years offense. My original argument was that it was relative to the teams we play and the style of the head coach.

You came at with a diff argument about players not being experienced. I think Jennings has had enough time to know what we got. Im all on board for starting Harris next game. Unless he has just done something wrong off the field we havent heard about. Then there really isnt any reason. We cant do worse than 0 points.

I wasnt setting parameters. Im not going to go look through every blow out of the football season in 2013 to see what teams kept throwing the ball with the starter in to run up the score. I know that LSU didnt. I just used the tamu bama game as an example.


Still Alleva needs to gtfo before we make any coaching changes.
This post was edited on 11/21/14 at 8:48 pm
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:50 pm to

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Still Alleva needs to gtfo before we make any coaching changes.


That much we definitely agree on
Posted by PurpleAndGold86
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:51 pm to
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I think he spot on as far as an ELITE overall program...........


Yeah, but you're one those really really stupid people.
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
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Posted on 11/21/14 at 8:52 pm to
The whole AD Dept is in a downward Spiral. Maybe its just our time to bottom dwell...
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:26 pm to
Youre stupid. If you dint play for the sec title, you didnt win the west. Thats the most lame thing on earth. Bama didnt play in the sec title game so they didnt win the west.
Posted by Open Your Eyes
Member since Nov 2012
9252 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:29 pm to
More FACTS you have a problem with? What's the deal man? They're just facts
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:32 pm to
I dont have a problem with any facts. Bama didnt represent the sec west in 2013 sec title game. They didnt win the west. Auburn won the tie breaker. If you dont play in the seccg you didnt win your division.
Posted by JaxTiger10
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2014
3893 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:33 pm to
How much does it hurt your bleeding count that Miles will be here for as long as he wants?
Posted by nm1230
Nashville, TN
Member since Oct 2011
698 posts
Posted on 11/21/14 at 9:35 pm to
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How much does it hurt your bleeding count that Miles will be here for as long as he wants?

Don't linger around too long in here. You are needed in several other threads. What does he pay you anyway?
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