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re: Our fanbase and Mediocrity

Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:31 am to
Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
1041 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:31 am to
probably
Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:31 am to
quote:

Last night's display of acceptance of mediocrity


strange, I saw it in a different way. I saw TICKET HOLDERS (you know, those that don't sit on their arse in front of the tv) embrace a coach they love. a coach they think is great for LSU, probably their alma mater.

i'll bet you mediocrity is not what they want. i'll also bet you they are optimistic that Miles will bring the program back.
Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
1041 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:33 am to
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Just give it up. All of your observations are completely justified and valid. However, your entire perspective is quite wrong. Let me tell you why.

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There are a few college football programs that have the same demands that are placed on an NFL team, but, LSU is not one of those programs.


LSU football is a minor league feeder to the NFL like many Div. IA programs. The salaries that Les Miles and staff receive are proof of this fact. You are holding on to a romantic and outdated notion. Sorry.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 11:40 am
Posted by Champagne
Already Conquered USA.
Member since Oct 2007
48356 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:34 am to
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i'll bet you mediocrity is not what they want. i'll also bet you they are optimistic that Miles will bring the program back.


The LSU season ticket holders are the most important fans there are. Their opinions should be the most important.
Posted by kennesawlsu
Member since Jan 2013
515 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:36 am to
Mediocre=4-4 in SEC;rent a wins don't count
Posted by Titan
Member since Apr 2008
2471 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:36 am to
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Nothing is "plummeting".


define .500 in conference play the past few years
Posted by LSUButt
Lowcountry
Member since Jan 2006
14930 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:36 am to
Explain what Les is bringing back? He inherited a loaded team and performed well. Those players left, and since '08 we have played in 1 BCS bowl and got embarrassed. Butttttt that's acceptable. Just like Stony Brook's victory lap
Posted by timlan2057
In the Shadow of Tiger Stadium
Member since Sep 2005
16829 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:42 am to
quote:

OP:

Just give it up. All of your observations are completely justified and valid. However, your entire perspective is quite wrong. Let me tell you why.

Your observations and comments would be completely on point if LSU were a pro football team. LSU is NOT a pro football organization. It's not run like an NFL franchise. The expectations are not the same as one would see for an NFL team.

LSU football is an amateur football program where college kids play football in exchange for a free education and enough national exposure to give them a good shot at playing for the NFL one day.

Stop thinking of LSU football as some kind of pro football endeavor, because in the NFL, each team has one and only one goal -- to win the Superbowl. When an owner loses confidence in his Head Coach's ability to win the SB, the HC is fired.

The LSU football program does not exist solely to win National Championships. There are many other competing reasons and purposes for its existence, such as, mentoring young athletes, providing a football team that brings students and alumni together during the fall, representing LSU well and making money. Those are the main purposes of the LSU football program.

Any championships or awards are nice to have and very welcome, but, these accolades are ancillary indicia of success in football competition, but they are not indicators of how well LSU football does in those other, JUST AS IMPORTANT areas. Those other main areas that I mention are just as important, but, there are no trophies for mentoring a student, visiting a sick kid, being a respected and beloved part of the LSU community, and so forth.

So, stop expecting LSU football to be something it is not. It's an amateur sporting endeavor that represents a State University, not a pro football franchise.

There are a few college football programs that have the same demands that are placed on an NFL team, but, LSU is not one of those programs.



Champagne, your post is well thought out, but I don't think it's accurate for LSU or any big-time football program.

Student-athletes have told me coaches tell them in no uncertain terms: "You're not here on an academic scholarship. You're here on a football scholarship. Football comes first."

So yes, with that kind of attitude, I expect elite-level results.
Posted by ForeLSU
The Corner of Sanity and Madness
Member since Sep 2003
41525 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:44 am to
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define .500 in conference play the past few years


.500 = same number of wins and losses, LSU is 14-10 the last 3 years

plummeting = significant, successive drops in wins over multiple years, see Auburn
Posted by chadr07
Pineville, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2015
7884 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:45 am to
Is that you Bradley dale peveto?
Posted by phideauxlsu
White Oak,TX
Member since Jan 2007
1379 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:45 am to
Basically what he is saying is, LSU football exist to give people something to do on Saturday nights. While Alabama football exists to win Championships. End of story.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
46625 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 11:46 am to
5-3 in the hardest division in cfb is not mediocrity.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 11:47 am
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