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re: Orgeron: It's going to look different, because it is different
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:05 pm to The First Cut
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:05 pm to The First Cut
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Ricky is a wing nut, like Damone he'll tell you ad nauseam about the 2016 recruiting class being ranked #2 without ever living up to the fact that there were a number of bombs in that class.
Yep. Recruiting classes are judged 3-4 years down the road.
Ricky loves to spout meaningless, cherry picked data without understanding the big picture.
He's been trying to prove Brandon Harris really wasn't that bad in 2015 without looking at things like interceptions, fumbles, offensive penalties..
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:06 pm to bencoleman
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It's really sad and you add in the drunkenness and it's not a pretty picture.
Hey, don't you have accidents to cause with your texting and driving sick boy?
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:07 pm to earl keese
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Roger: The passing game improved the last couple of games of the seaosn.
Me: Yes Roger, it did improve, But take a look at the teams that we played and how bad their pass defenses were.
Roger: I SAID THE PASSING GAME IMPROVED DAMN IT!
Either that or he'll say "well at least I view things in a positive light" as if you can use positivity as an excuse for poor logic.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:08 pm to earl keese
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Me: Yes Roger, it did improve, But take a look at the teams that we played and how bad their pass defenses were.
Yet you can't answer the simple question why throwing for 1200 yards over 4 games at LSU is such a rarity despite the level of defense.
I've asked you several times and you ignore, or are incapable of reading.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:09 pm to earl keese
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Hey, don't you have accidents to cause with your texting and driving sick boy
The accident wasn't caused by me texting and driving. The woman entered the exit and never hit a brake when she hit the back of my wife's car.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:09 pm to Goldrush25
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Either that or he'll say "well at least I view things in a positive light
Which is true. Despite defensive rankings, the offense did improve
For some reason this makes you angry
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:16 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Which is true. Despite defensive rankings, the offense did improve
For some reason this makes you angry
I think everyone's acknowledging they improved, but you have to take into account the level of competition as well.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:17 pm to Goldrush25
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think everyone's acknowledging they improved
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but you have to take into account the level of competition as well.
Well no shite. Holy cow, what a revelation
The funny thing is no one was quantifying how much the offense improved, but the Negas fight tooth and nail to find reasons why it couldn't have been experience and scheme.
A simple statement such as "the offense improved" draws out the excuses for reasons to diminish it.
We get it. For the thousandth time we know the level of competition wasn't fantastic. That's not going to explain the disparity between beginning and end of season though
It's really common sense
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:23 pm to earl keese
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Hey, don't you have accidents to cause with your texting and driving sick boy?
Sounds like you need a long break
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:24 pm to Goldrush25
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You're right, that's not the route he chose. It's easy to say these things in retrospect. But the fact is no one knows what would've happened had he been allowed to play out the season. He may have offered Etienne eventually. He's landed plenty of big fish later in the cycle. He still can't really be blamed for a cycle that he wasn't allowed to finish.
Miles was a very good recruiter. Some of these "deficiencies" in his classes are way overstated. Coaching uncertainty plays a part so when Miles was on the hot seat and when O was an interim/new hire could easily have a negative effect. Neither staff has had significant success in attracting top echelon OTs. We still seem much better at grabbing skill players (minus QBs)vs linemen. That could change this cycle but it's too early to tell.
I also think classes are better evaluated by looking at class average. From the top LSU class (2009 - 91.51 avg) till 2019 we haven't been below 88.50 and O's worst class 2018 was a 90.11 avg. And the final, most important evaluator is what production you get out of those players. It will take another year or two to see what we get from the 2017/18 classes.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:25 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Yet you can't answer the simple question why throwing for 1200 yards over 4 games at LSU is such a rarity despite the level of defense.
For frick's sake Roger. How many times does it have to be said that Miles teams struggled at the QB position most years?
Burrow's the most talented QB we've had since Mett was here. It's no surprise that he threw for that many yards against the teams we faced the last 4 games of the season.
Would you feel better if I said Miles was the devil and o is the best coach LSU has had since the dawn of LSU football? 'Cause it sure seems like that's what you want.
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I've asked you several times and you ignore, or are incapable of reading.
I forgot that you're the rant's posting police and it's you're God given right for all of us to answer each and every post you submit. Even though you don't answer every question asked of you.
I hope you let me off with just a warning officer shrubbs.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:26 pm to bencoleman
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The accident wasn't caused by me texting and driving.
Yeah. You bet.
You shouldn't be driving all drugged up and texting anyway.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:27 pm to BayouCowboy
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Miles was a very good recruiter. Some of these "deficiencies" in his classes are way overstated
Agree
The board has too many "experts" who can't coach peewee football making decisions out of ignorance
I didn't want him fired in 2015 simply because of his recruiting prowess.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:29 pm to BayouCowboy
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also think classes are better evaluated by looking at class average. From the top LSU class (2009 - 91.51 avg) till 2019 we haven't been below 88.50 and O's worst class 2018 was a 90.11 avg. And the final, most important evaluator is what production you get out of those players. It will take another year or two to see what we get from the 2017/18 classes.
Agree. A class avg of 91 is better than an average of 89 independently of where they are ranked in different years
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:31 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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The funny thing is no one was quantifying how much the offense improved, but the Negas fight tooth and nail to find reasons why it couldn't have been experience and scheme.
A simple statement such as "the offense improved" draws out the excuses for reasons to diminish it.
We get it. For the thousandth time we know the level of competition wasn't fantastic. That's not going to explain the disparity between beginning and end of season though
Fine. Quantify it; how much did the offense improve? 15%? 20%? 45.9%?
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:33 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Sounds like you need a long break
Sounds like you need to frick off.
Oh, I'm sorry. I forgot who I was talking too.
Well you're in luck Rant Officer Shrubbs. I have some stuff to do in a few minutes and will be taking a break from the rant.
Perhaps you should take a break as well.
Perhaps your lovebird friend ben should take a break also. 'Cause if he's gonna throw stones with his hateful insults, he should be prepared to have a few lobbed right back at him.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 1:35 pm
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:35 pm to Goldrush25
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Quantify it; how much did the offense improve? 15%? 20%? 45.9%?
What?
Not everything can be reduced down to silly subjective data.
You can crunch productivity numbers vs similar opponents if you wish but that's not going to give you a total picture.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:36 pm to earl keese
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Perhaps your lovebird friend ben should take a break also. 'Cause if he's gonna throw stones with his hateful insults, he should be prepared to have a few lobbed right back at him.
There's that 4th grade mentality
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:55 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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There's that 4th grade mentality
Is that any different than you lobbing insults at Rickdaddy? Or Goldrush? Or Damone or any other poster you disagree with?
What the frick am I saying, I won't get a straight answer out of you. I forgot that you think you're better than the rest of us.
Posted on 5/6/19 at 2:04 pm to Cajunomics
REALLY!
You are surprised?
P U LEEEZZZZZ!!!
I like Ensminger as a Tiger, just not as a Tiger coach.
Orgeron just better give control to Brady and not waffle like he and Less have been known to do.
You are surprised?
P U LEEEZZZZZ!!!
I like Ensminger as a Tiger, just not as a Tiger coach.
Orgeron just better give control to Brady and not waffle like he and Less have been known to do.
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