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re: Orgeron: It's going to look different, because it is different

Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:40 pm to
Posted by The First Cut
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:40 pm to
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He preferred Akers, who would've been tailor-made for his offense.


Akers was the big fish that he wanted, but having Akers in no way precludes Etienne. His top two targets, as evidenced by the offers, were Akers and CEH. He could've pursued Akers and Etienne, but that's not the route he chose.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:42 pm to
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A guy with no say whatsoever in the LSU recruiting process since September 2016 should share equal responsibility with the guy in full say so since Sept of 2016 for a running game in 2018.


Absolutely

There's a reason recruiting classes cannot be judged until 3-4 years down the Road. Miles was definitely involved in the 2017 class
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:43 pm to
You're right, that's not the route he chose.

It's easy to say these things in retrospect. But the fact is no one knows what would've happened had he been allowed to play out the season. He may have offered Etienne eventually. He's landed plenty of big fish later in the cycle.

He still can't really be blamed for a cycle that he wasn't allowed to finish.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 12:44 pm
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:44 pm to
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We’r they prioritizing that kid that signed with FSU?


They were. Sounds like Akers wasn't honest with the staff
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282140 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:45 pm to
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Roger wants to say that Burrow and the passing game just woke up one game day and all of a sudden figured it all out, without taking the level of competition into account.


If that what you're getting out of this, you have a 4th grade education, at best
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282140 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:46 pm to
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Shrubs doesn't like the entire truth,


And another retarded statement. I've always agreed to the scheduling issue. You and lilRicky both claimed the offense didn't improve.
This post was edited on 5/6/19 at 12:49 pm
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14397 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:47 pm to
I think we mostly agree. Orgeron did eventually offer Etienne, and it was still ahead of Clemson. There's no telling what may have happened had he stayed - it's not impossible that he could've landed all three.

At the same time, I don't know how you blame Orgeron when he only landed the job in late November. He had sixty-somthing or seventy-something days from hire date to signing day. Most of the top prospects are already committed by then. You can't start from scratch in late November.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282140 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:48 pm to
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The ones raving about the offensive "explosion" after the coaching change also conveniently forgot that Miles and Cam were setting records during the first half of 2015, before the schedule got hard.


The offense fell apart because we couldn't throw the ball, and it became predictable. It's not hard to defend when you can stack the box and not worry about Brandon Harris.
Posted by bencoleman
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Member since Feb 2009
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Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:49 pm to
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that what you're getting out of this, you have a 4th grade education, at best



You're flattering him now. He's already a half a fifth in right now.
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14397 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:51 pm to
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And another retarded statement. I've always agreed to the scheduling issue. You and lilRicky both claimed the offense didn't improve.


Ricky's working with Duke math. He thinks the last three games of the season equates to the last half of a 13-game season.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:52 pm to
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kinda like we not only had to turn a blind eye but put blinders on both fricking eyes the last few years of Miles amirite?


Opinions Red. They're like assholes. Everyone's got one and damn near all of them stink.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282140 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:55 pm to
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Ricky's working with Duke math. He thinks the last three games of the season equates to the last half of a 13-game season.


He said yesterday that you had to be retarded to believe the offense improved in 2017. Sadly he forgot admitting the day before that it had improved.

He disappeared soon afterwards
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282140 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:56 pm to
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You're flattering him now. He's already a half a fifth in right now.


Negas see everything in extremes. It's a moronic way to view the world
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:57 pm to
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If that what you're getting out of this, you have a 4th grade education, at best


Cool, I'm 2 full grades above you.
Posted by Goldrush25
San Diego, CA
Member since Oct 2012
33833 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:58 pm to
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At the same time, I don't know how you blame Orgeron when he only landed the job in late November. He had sixty-somthing or seventy-something days from hire date to signing day. Most of the top prospects are already committed by then. You can't start from scratch in late November.



I don't blame anyone but Alleva for 2016-17. I do blame him for not getting a bigger difference maker in 2018. Curry's not going to ever have a significant role with LSU, and Provens should've never been offered.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:58 pm to
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You're flattering him now. He's already a half a fifth in right now.


Is that you talking or the drugs you're on?

Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
282140 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 12:58 pm to
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You're flattering him now


I think Earl is senile. Bless his heart. I try to explain in simple terms and he still gets lost
Posted by The First Cut
Member since Apr 2012
14397 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:01 pm to
Ricky is a wing nut, like Damone he'll tell you ad nauseam about the 2016 recruiting class being ranked #2 without ever living up to the fact that there were a number of bombs in that class. Damone shite on the 2018 class in this thread, not a stellar class, but one that's already shown more potential than 2016's offensive class, which had a large part leave without ever contributing.
Posted by bencoleman
RIP 7/19
Member since Feb 2009
37887 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:04 pm to
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think Earl is senile. Bless his heart. I try to explain in simple terms and he still gets lost




It's really sad and you add in the drunkenness and it's not a pretty picture.
Posted by earl keese
A Thousand Miles from Nowhere
Member since Jan 2014
7029 posts
Posted on 5/6/19 at 1:04 pm to
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I think Earl is senile.


You two lovebirds need to decide if I'm an old man or a kid. "cause it changes with the two of you on a weekly basis.


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I try to explain in simple terms and he still gets lost


You bet Roger.

Roger: The passing game improved the last couple of games of the seaosn.

Me: Yes Roger, it did improve, But take a look at the teams that we played and how bad their pass defenses were.

Roger: I SAID THE PASSING GAME IMPROVED DAMN IT!


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