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re: No Matter What-JJ

Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:25 am to
Posted by LSUdm21
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:25 am to
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Below is a link to Lee's stats in 08 he threw an INT one out of every 16.8 attempts. Last year he threw an INT one out of every 89 attempts. In 08 he completed 53.2% of his passes. In 2010 he completed 60.7% of his passes. While I think he still needs to improve that is significant improvement and I think he is much closer than JJ.


He still showed he didn't know how to run an offense in a normal game flow too.



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I still think Mett would give us the best chance to win.


Based on what exactly?
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:29 am to
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Last year he threw an INT one out of every 89 attempts. In 08 he completed 53.2% of his passes. In 2010 he completed 60.7% of his passes.


This had more to do with the coaches being scared to let him throw the ball and only letting him throw short passes mostly.
Posted by Rudy40
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:29 am to
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Based on what exactly?


Based on JJ's performance or lack of last year. Based on the fact that I agree that Lee still has some significant shortcomings. But compared to JJ I think he is the better choice. Based on the fact that Richt and Murray have both said that it was a tight competition between Mett and Murray before Mett's legal issue. I dont think JJ would be in any type of competition with Murray and based on Mett's spring while limited action I think he has all the potential to be a very good qb and him sitting on the bench behind 2 inferior qb's is not helping his growth.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:30 am to
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based on Mett's spring while limited action I think he has all the potential to be a very good qb and him sitting on the bench behind 2 inferior qb's is not helping his growth.


based on all reports from camp...JJ had a better spring than Mett and Lee.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:33 am to
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Based on JJ's performance or lack of last year. Based on the fact that I agree that Lee still has some significant shortcomings. But compared to JJ I think he is the better choice. Based on the fact that Richt and Murray have both said that it was a tight competition between Mett and Murray before Mett's legal issue. I dont think JJ would be in any type of competition with Murray and based on Mett's spring while limited action I think he has all the potential to be a very good qb and him sitting on the bench behind 2 inferior qb's is not helping his growth.


Only a moron would start a JUCO transfer on a top 5 team based on this criteria.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:34 am to
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based on all reports from camp...JJ had a better spring than Mett and Lee.


Well according to several reports I have heard JJ has peformed exclusively with the first team vs the second team defense and Mett has been exclusively with the 2nd and 3rd teams against the 1st team D. I would think playing with superior talented recievers and line would automatically give him a huge advantage.

We also heard what a great spring JJ had prior to last season and look what happened there.
Posted by Hitchcock
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:37 am to
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We also heard what a great spring JJ had prior to last season and look what happened there.




LSU went 11-2.
Posted by TigerB8
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:37 am to
Tulane has had better passing stats for the last 3 years...end of story.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:37 am to
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Well according to several reports I have heard JJ has peformed exclusively with the first team vs the second team defense and Mett has been exclusively with the 2nd and 3rd teams against the 1st team D.


I seriously doubt this was the case throughout the entire camp and practices. Actually...i'd be willing to bet that it wasn't.

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We also heard what a great spring JJ had prior to last season and look what happened there.


We heard it from Miles. I don't remember hearing it from others like this year.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:38 am to
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Tulane has had better passing stats for the last 3 years...end of story.


wtf does this have to do with anything?
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3073 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:38 am to
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Only a moron would start a JUCO transfer on a top 5 team based on this criteria.


So a genius such as yourself would continue to start the 108th rated qb in the country over someone who undeniably has great potential. Leave a player in the starting lineup who has proven he cant do the job over someone who more than likely can?

You know they say the definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different resul! Putting JJ on the field and expecting him to magically transform into a competent qb!!
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:39 am to
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Well according to several reports I have heard JJ has peformed exclusively with the first team vs the second team defense and Mett has been exclusively with the 2nd and 3rd teams against the 1st team D. I would think playing with superior talented recievers and line would automatically give him a huge advantage.

We also heard what a great spring JJ had prior to last season and look what happened there.


Well that statement is just complete bullshite considering the only WR on our roster that falls into that category is Reuben.
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:40 am to
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Tulane has had better passing stats for the last 3 years...end of story.



where were the Willow Street Warriors ranked at the end of the year?

What Bowl game did Tulane go to?
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:41 am to
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So a genius such as yourself would continue to start the 108th rated qb in the country


that was last year

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over someone who undeniably has great potential.


and has never stepped on a Div 1 football field in front of 93,000 people. Potential doesn't win football games.

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Putting JJ on the field and expecting him to magically transform into a competent qb!!


we get it. You hate JJ. Still haven't figured out why.
Posted by Choctaw
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:42 am to
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So a genius such as yourself would continue to start the 108th rated qb in the country


that was last year

quote:

over someone who undeniably has great potential.


and has never stepped on a Div 1 football field in front of 93,000 people. Potential doesn't win football games.

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Putting JJ on the field and expecting him to magically transform into a competent qb!!


we get it. You hate JJ. Still haven't figured out why.

who would you have started at the beginning of '10....Lee of JJ?
This post was edited on 6/20/11 at 11:43 am
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:42 am to
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So a genius such as yourself would continue to start the 108th rated qb in the country over someone who undeniably has great potential. Leave a player in the starting lineup who has proven he cant do the job over someone who more than likely can?


Again, how the frick is Mett "more likely" at this point? And, just think if Auburn would've had this mindset on Jason Campbell going into his senior year. Mett can't possibly affect a game like Cam did last year for Auburn.

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You know they say the definition of stupidity is doing the same thing over and over and expecting a different resul! Putting JJ on the field and expecting him to magically transform into a competent qb!!


So much fail up in here.
Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3073 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:43 am to
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Well that statement is just complete bullshite considering the only WR on our roster that falls into that category is Reuben.


So you dont think that the guys running first team on the Oline and at WR are superior to the guys running 2nd and 3rd team? Either LSU is supremely loaded at these positions and I think they are very deep but the starters in almost all cases are superior to their backups. Or there is a serious reason for concern across the board!
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:44 am to
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So you dont think that the guys running first team on the Oline and at WR are superior to the guys running 2nd and 3rd team? Either LSU is supremely loaded at these positions and I think they are very deep but the starters in almost all cases are superior to their backups. Or there is a serious reason for concern across the board!


The oline I'll give you but it's now like the QBs were being hit in practice. And if you're not concerned about our WRs then I don't know what to tell you. The only proven one is #2.
Posted by Hitchcock
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:48 am to
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Tulane has had better passing stats for the last 3 years...end of story.



wtf does this have to do with anything?



TigerB8 just proved BilJ's theory about QBs to be False.

Of course, John Elway & Andre Ware had already accomplished that many years ago.
Posted by Choctaw
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Member since Jul 2007
77774 posts
Posted on 6/20/11 at 11:49 am to
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So you dont think that the guys running first team on the Oline and at WR are superior to the guys running 2nd and 3rd team? Either LSU is supremely loaded at these positions and I think they are very deep but the starters in almost all cases are superior to their backups


and all the QBs took snaps with each team. If you honestly think JJ only played with 1st team recievers and against the 2nd and 3rd string defenses all spring then you're not very bright.
This post was edited on 6/20/11 at 11:56 am
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