re: New LSU Pitching Coach, Jason Kelley interview w/ T-Bob

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Go talk to the hall of fame hitters who hit for average AND power, who agree with me, and call them idiots.

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They all hit for certain launch angles, they just didn't know it.

We have the ability to teach exactly what made the best hitters so good. Before we didn't have that.

Let me guess you think Weighted ball training and weight training for athletes and deceleration training is a waste too?

Weighted ball training can definitely be debated

Properly performed and controlled are the key points to your entire approach. Haphazardly performed, especially without the proper controls, is doom for weighted ball training.

Well yea. That goes for weight lifting and pretty much any other time we apply progressive overload

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It's really just a simple logic equation put into the baseball realm. You see the result of certain swings, then check the data on it. Then, you just try to replicate the swings that gave you the data and assume that they will produce the same results.

If A then B, if B then C, therefore A=C. Or, something like that, you get the picture.

It's just a more tangible set of rules, instead of pure eyes and ears and opinions, etc. You still need the correct approach to arrive at those swings and subsequent data/results. You can replicate the swing, but it doesn't matter if you're not making ample contact. In other words, you can't just say, "swing like Mike Trout".

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Agreed. But if you see that Mike Trouts swing looks a lot like Tony Gwynn’s swing which looks a lot like Mickey Mantles swing then you can deduce that this is probably the proper way to swing a bat.

Having the perfect swing doesn’t matter if you don’t know the strike zone though.

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You work in strength and conditioning

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Engineering, S&C is just a really really strong hobby I do on the side.

I have 3 Lil boys that are all stupidly obsessed with baseball so I want them to be the best they can while making sure they stay as injury free as possible, that's why I am kind of obsessed with all the baseball stuff.

Want them to have all the tools they want to use to be the best they want to be. Plus I'm more into practice and not the crazy amount t of games so kids play.

As far as Weighted balls, we know for a fact under Weighted balls like tennis and whiffle balls put way more torque on the joint yet all of us grew up playing in the yard with them pegging our friends, not thought a thing about it. Now when you mention Weighted balls, every fat dad or travel ball coach freaks. Tom house was doing it Nolan 40 years ago, just using footballs. Same damn concepts. And guess what vs league average....Nolan was fastest ever and why he has more strikeouts.

Dominicans have been using Penny bats along with whiffle ball bats for decades now as over/under training systems and putting ungodly amounts of hitters into the league. But suddenly old fat travel ball coach says it messes up form. Well the data suggest otherwise, frick your feelings.


I highly suggest yall go read stuff on driveline and listen to their approach and all the r&d the are doing. Go read the studies. Go read chad longworth, go read baseball rebellion. Go read MLB Stats that break it down, go read on swing trackers etc. The data is out there.


I'm a science guy, in my field gut feelings get people killed. Show me the data, I want to see the data, nothing else matters. Same goes for S&C and for baseball.

It's simple in pretty much everything

Develop the data
Identify what mwtrics matter
Identify ways to make those metrics better

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Precisely. Are we capable of properly controlling each of the subjects, consistently, for weighted ball training? I think we should be. I hope we can. But, I don't think the data supports the fact that college baseball programs actually can.

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With what we are paying JJ and Kelly and the staff along with the baseball S&C members we better be able to. Not like they don't have the playai to monitor the movement and mutiple arm care devices that they use to monitor torque and overuse

This isn't the bad news bears. These devices are in every college and most upper level high schools now.

shite I'm buying my 9 year old an arm care device for next season to make sure he isn't over used. They are only like 250.

Stop acting like this stuff is some futuristic stuff that cost hundreds of thousands.

The only things you missed are interpretation and application. If improperly interpreted and applied, everything else is a pile of trash.

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Having the perfect swing doesn’t matter if you don’t know the strike zone though.

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That's what's so funny. Couple idiots on here stuck in the old ways getting mad at us for talking about getting with the times and talking about vision etc.

Newsflash to them, LSU and every other major college are already implementing vision training, Vr training with the win reality and diamond kinetics swing tracker combo. They have the ability to teach how to read spin, release points etc. Yall act like applied vision is some obscure company.

It's laughable that people think that a schools aren't implementing vision training when driveline did the damn study on the brain activity involved in the baseball vision and published their findings and partnered with a company to develop a program and allowed that company to sell it.

Me as travel ball parent can afford that training, so can every hs program and yet some thing LSU doesn't have that ability

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