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re: Most of You are Spoiled -Throw-in- the-Towel 1/2 Assed Fans

Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:02 pm to
Posted by Beauregard96
Hopped up on goof balls
Member since Nov 2006
2567 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:02 pm to
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More purple kool aid pls.

I'll take two please, thanks.

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I'll make sure & bump this thread in a year or two when this program is still underperforming and losing 4/5 games a year.

And what will you do when they are winning the SEC? Hop back on the bandwagon?
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:03 pm to
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More purple kool aid pls.
This is what I don't agree with you about. We both agree there are concerns. You are trying to look at trends...this is not math, business, science or otherwise. These are people playing a game. I get what you are saying. We just look at things from different perspectives. I just have not yet given up on LM. I prefer other leadership styles than what he appears to possess (appears because I am not around him and only get to observe what TV provides me...not enough to truly gauge leadership) but that is just what I PREFER...in other words it is irrelevant to this debate. Unless you are around him on a regular basis, then you are also basing your evaluation on TV time.

To go about talking about the future failure of the program based on a loose trend you perceive is just spreading negativity and saps the entertainment value out of watching football. The ups and downs of programs do go with the territory. They occur and will occur no matter who is the coach.

If deciding to wait before passing judgment on this year is "drinking purple koolaid" then count me in.
Posted by KCBasketball
Member since Dec 2008
3629 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:08 pm to
This thread needs to be anchored.

Are you a better fan because you come on here(a public message board about LSU) and call out people who are critical to the team they love? Everyone in this world is being watched by someone and are being judged. How is this any different than an employee evaluation? It isnt. People are stating what Miles has to do to get this team playing better. Nobody is throwing in the towel. Most are stating the problems that LSU is having and most are towards Miles.

If you dont like reading stuff like that, dont come here. I enjoy reading peoples opinions on this team. Chicken and the admins have done a great job monitoring it so it doenst get out hand like cursing out players. He also did a great job in getting in a great LSU writer with Carl which has made the site better for us.

Posted by TheHat
Delusionville
Member since Feb 2007
3855 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:11 pm to
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How do you feel when your boss and/or customers do nothing but tear you down personally


I shrug it off and move on.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:12 pm to
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If deciding to wait before passing judgment on this year is "drinking purple koolaid" then count me in.


Fair enough.
But how many 4/5 lose seasons will it take before you would consider the results to catch up with the performance?

Remember, we were 5-1 last year also.

Do you deny that if drastic changes aren't made that the "trend" becomes a reality? Do you think that these coaches are getting the most out of the talent (not a single game, but over the past 2 years, which is a pretty large sample)? Lastly, do you believe that the results ultimately fall on the shoulders of the head coach, regardless of the asst coaches/players/etc?
Posted by Tommy Patel
Member since Apr 2006
7558 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:12 pm to
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These are good times and the comments on this board make it appear that our program and season is in the condition of FSU, MI, GA, TN, OK, UCLA, WV.... all teams with multiple losses.


I swear I heard someone at lunch say this same thing almost exactly.
Posted by ExOline
Louisiana
Member since Oct 2009
17 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:17 pm to
You don't have clue about what you are talking about. If LSU keeps on doing what they are doing, they are going to keep on getting what they are getting. You can have every Blue Chip player on a team and if is poorly coached or lazy it will never meet its potential. You can call bull shite all you want and talk about traveling to the future and make any other assinine analogies you like but you have apparently attached your ego to this subpar underperforming team and you cannot detach yourself for a moment and look at it dispassionately. Keep on Blogging Brother. P.S. I hope you are right and I am wrong.
Posted by Beauregard96
Hopped up on goof balls
Member since Nov 2006
2567 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:18 pm to
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Are you a better fan because you come on here(a public message board about LSU) and call out people who are critical to the team they love?

I never said that. I agree with some of the criticism and feel that it is warranted.

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Nobody is throwing in the towel.


You obviously missed some threads about firing coaches and fans of 60 yrs ready to jump ship. That is what I have a problem with.

Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:19 pm to
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And what will you do when they are winning the SEC? Hop back on the bandwagon?


I will scream my lungs out cheering for LSU just like I do now and have done for the past 25 years.
Just because I get pissed after the 2nd-6th option call with JJ running his back into the defense OR when the offense comes onto the field with no receivers on 3rd & goal from the 3 and run the obvious dive into the left side of the line for no gain OR when we rush 3 and drop 8 on 3rd & 12 only to have Joe "Schmoe" Cox complete an easy 13 yd pass after 5 seconds for the 4th or 5th time doesn't make me any less a fan than you.
Posted by 7 Moves
Chicago
Member since Sep 2009
2613 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:24 pm to
Billy Ray -- you write, how many 4/5 loss season will it take.......... if we don't make drastic changes........

We have not had multiple 4/5 loss seasons - one really off year last year with three really good years belfore that with Miles. We are in the middle of a promising year and you have already folded your tent and quit. That is my point about 1/2 assed throw in the towel fans who are burying this team long before they are dead. Why?
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 3:30 pm to
Why?

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We are in the middle of a promising year


This is exactly why!

Please tell me specifically what makes this year a promising year. If you say b/c we're 5-1 and ranked 10th, I'm going to throw up.
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 4:04 pm to
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Please tell me specifically what makes this year a promising year. If you say b/c we're 5-1 and ranked 10th, I'm going to throw up.


Well, throw up then.

Cause we are 5-1 with an off week in which to heal and get ready for Auburn at home. A winnable game to go 6-1. We then have Tulane...another winnable game to go 7-1 and probably ranked around 7th or 8th heading to Bama. What's not "promising" if we can be 7-1 with bout 3 weeks to go in the season???

This is just me, but I'll take 7-1, play out the season, and see what happens before throwing in the towel.



Posted by 7 Moves
Chicago
Member since Sep 2009
2613 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 4:26 pm to
From what I have seen, I believe we are better than AU, TU, OM, LA Tech and AR and are not as good as FL and AL. I say we win 4/5 games the remaining season - and go 10-2 or 9-3 and play in the Capital One or the Cotton Bowl where we will win.
Posted by Billy Ray Valentine
Duke & Duke
Member since Sep 2007
1553 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 4:29 pm to
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Cause we are 5-1 with an off week in which to heal and get ready for Auburn at home. A winnable game to go 6-1. We then have Tulane...another winnable game to go 7-1 and probably ranked around 7th or 8th heading to Bama. What's not "promising" if we can be 7-1 with bout 3 weeks to go in the season???


Just like when we were 5-1 last year.

Let's see, most difficult part of the schedule still ahead....however, we're ranked 109th in offense & 40th in defense....our OC still calls the same plays that haven't worked for weeks, our OL can't block for shite & haven't for weeks, our defense can't get anyone off the field on 3rd down and puts zero pressure on the QB.....all of that and more and the fact that the remaining schedule is tougher than YTD.

I'm not giving up on the season & I hope we make it to ATL. But what reason is there really to expect anything different from what we've seen so far...and what we've seen so far won't cut it the remainder of the season.
Posted by Archie Bengal Bunker
Member since Jun 2008
15597 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 4:37 pm to
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We're 5-1 and you see a 7-5 season?


Sincerely,

Week 8 of 2008

LSU was 5-1 and ranked 13th, how did that work out? 7-5 for those that can't remember that far back.

LINK

I don't think we go 7-5, but to say it is out of the realm of possibility because we are 5-1 and ranked high is just as close minded, especially when it happened last year!

I think we fall somewhere in the middle, 9-3 would be good.
Posted by rrboy
USA
Member since Jan 2005
5477 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 5:22 pm to
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Most of You are Spoiled -Throw-in- the-Towel 1/2 Assed Fans
who don't know crap about leadership, developing a team over the course of a season, and the recipe for winning in sports or business. We are in the Top 10, respected around the country, will beat Auburn and Tulane and go into T-Town 7-1 with a chance to win and porably the 7 PM featured game of the week on ABC or CBS. These are good times and the comments on this board make it appear that our program and season is in the condition of FSU, MI, GA, TN, OK, UCLA, WV.... all teams with multiple losses. We have work to do on offense, no doubt, and I have concerns about Crowton -- not Miles, not Chavis. For God sakes, enjoy this season -- it has the potential to be a great one, and most all of our teams over the last 50 years were not as good as this won. Man up and get behind the team instead of trying to tear it down. How do you feel when your boss and/or customers do nothing but tear you down personally. Makes you feel good and improves your work? I don't think so.

I'm with you
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
216133 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 5:29 pm to
Most people think I am doom and gloom. I hope LSU wins every game. However When I see shite like this going on I am going to comment on it. If you guys don't like it TOO FRICKING BAD. This team wasn't playing real good BEFORE the FLA game, so now I wonder how they will react??? Will it fire them up or bring them down. The problems on offense are HUGE and I don't see where the improvenment will come from. I mean HEY we are six games into the season. When will this improvement come???
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 5:54 pm to
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But how many 4/5 lose seasons will it take before you would consider the results to catch up with the performance?
Ding, ding, ding! Exactly! 4/5 loss seasons. So far how many of those is in the books? ONE. So far this season we have ONE loss. You, however are resigned to and already see a 4/5 loss season. I can only speak of results/performance of 6 games so far this season.

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Remember, we were 5-1 last year also.
Oh! I didn't know that! So, last year's performance IS THIS YEAR'S PERFORMANCE. Gotcha!

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Do you deny that if drastic changes aren't made that the "trend" becomes a reality?
This is another place where we differ. It only becomes reality AFTER it occurs. Until then it is only an estimate, a guess, a perception. These are people playing a game of will, desire, physical force, etc. Many unpredictable factors are involved that cannot be measured. You can measure all the stats you want -- they are only indicators. How do you measure the fire in the gut that wills a team to do extraordinary things? (Though I will say it SEEMS there is very little evidence of this on the offense during SOME of the games SOME of the time so far.)

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Do you think that these coaches are getting the most out of the talent (not a single game, but over the past 2 years, which is a pretty large sample)?
Not on offense, not right now. There are flashes of brilliance then followed by stupidity that lets the air out before any steam gets a chance to build. On defense they did not last year but I see improvements that say otherwise this year.

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do you believe that the results ultimately fall on the shoulders of the head coach, regardless of the asst coaches/players/etc?
Of course it does and I don't think you will find many who will say otherwise. I am just glad we are not giving in to the LOUD knee jerk reaction a segment of our fanbase is screaming about (you seem to be one of them). FWIW, I did react this way immediately after the game (check my posts) but calmed down and realized that I was overreacting. Who would want to work for someone that flies off the handle that quickly?
Posted by 7 Moves
Chicago
Member since Sep 2009
2613 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 6:20 pm to
You doomers who keep saying what has changed since last year the answers are:

1. We have one of the best DC's in the business and our D is drmatically better than the constantly out of position D under Malaveto who were both fired along with the DL coach who was swept out also.

2. Our QB is not on target to throw 16 interceptions with 7 Pick Six's although our offense and QB play needs to amp it up, drive, and score more points. Crowton is totally on the spot here, I acknowledge.

3. Our turnover ratio is vastly improved vs. the competition, and we need to keep this going.
Posted by TigerWoody
btwn where I was & where I will be
Member since Dec 2007
11387 posts
Posted on 10/15/09 at 6:24 pm to
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7 Moves
Keep that shite out of here...it does not agree with the "trends" they see.
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