Started By
Message

re: Miles will not be making any changes to the OLine

Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:26 pm to
Posted by oleskuledude
Abita Springs, Louisiana
Member since Jan 2012
199 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:26 pm to
quote:

Yeah, just as I figured, you watch the game like my wife watches it, and then you come on here and bitch like a girl. Learn more about the game and THEN come on here and we'll chat.


Whoa, 'spert57, cut back on the Red Bull!
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
Member since Oct 2008
1627 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:27 pm to
quote:

do you still have the game saved on dvr? i'd like to point out some specific plays tonight or tomorrow to you and here your bs excuse for why its not josh d's fault on each. K?


Bruh, the day YOU can convince me that you know more about football than a brain damaged turtle, much less me, is the day I blow my brains out.

Its my fault, I was stupid for even posting a reply to you, I apologize. It won't happen again.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14969 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:28 pm to
Josh D's cut block on that play was RIDICULOUS and Lemonier treated him like the new kid in line for lunch repeatedly Saturday.

I like the guy but my main problem is WTF does it take you an entire half of football to see the poor guy getting his arse whipped out there? At what point do you lift a finger?

That cut-block was not executed properly and Lemonier did not ever leave his feet. He had to put a hand down and it hardly slowed him. I don't care whether Mett didn't pull the trigger or not, Lemonier shouldn't have been there because if that block's executed properly then he's laying on his stomach and flailing helplessly.

I'll say this like I mentioned to someone else during a conversation earlier today. I always found that Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook's theory on his business made a lot of sense to me.

Go fast. Break things. Apologize afterwards.

We drew up blocking assignments that left Josh D one-on-one against Corey Lemonier this past Saturday in the leadup to the game. The OL Coach and I know for a fact the HC review and collaborate on the blocking schemes (It was a HUGE point of contention for Searles & Miles as Miles would completely rewrite Searles schemes).

The collaboration of our HC & our OC/OL Coach was such that even though they saw Josh D beaten TWICE in consecutive plays by an Idaho Vandal DE, we were left watching him go against a far, far better player on the road in a hostile environment completley one-on-one.

He got benched last week for a 'contusion' after the two plays. But suddenly he's going to be able to do what he couldn't? Worse yet, when he's getting repeatedly beaten off the edge on pass-pro, and looked lost on zone-blocking assignments when he had outside help, we did NOTHING.

The staff did not adjust until the 3rd quarter to provide him help. WTF is going on? Who is responsible for the total lack of adjustment there?

I'm not losing my head or melting down. I'm wondering how our HC & our OL/OC can draw that up and think it will work, and then stubbornly not bother to make the adjustment in-game, but wait for halftime.

We had tape showing it couldn't be done, but we tried it anyway, and then were slow to react when we got it jammed down our throats at LT. My question is WHO is responsible for that? My opinion is HC & OL/OC. But how can these two guys-who I want to trust and whom I want to give lots of credit to-be so oblivious to what many, many fans already know?

It breeds distrust and enmity out of your fanbase when you look at that sort've thing objectively. I'm sorry if I'm called a rantard, negatard, etc.
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
Member since Oct 2008
1627 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Whoa, 'spert57, cut back on the Red Bull!


I'm cool brother, but I truck no fools.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:29 pm to
quote:

Yeah, just as I figured, you watch the game like my wife watches it, and then you come on here and bitch like a girl. Learn more about the game and THEN come on here and we'll chat.


Brah, I already told you that you were right

Josh D really held his own against auburn
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81328 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:30 pm to
quote:

Bruh, the day YOU can convince me that you know more about football than a brain damaged turtle, much less me, is the day I blow my brains out.

Its my fault, I was stupid for even posting a reply to you, I apologize. It won't happen again.


ie, you will have no way to defend Josh D so you are backing away from all of your earlier lies. smart move. i'll bump this anyway with the specific plays to make you look worse. you can choose to reply or not.
Posted by aglandry
lafayette
Member since Oct 2008
2574 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

He may not change the lineup, but the scheme will change. Maybe more two tights or more chips on that side from a back. They wont leave him on an island when we meet USCe




You have the solution.When we face great defensive ends, we will just have to make the adjustments.Didn't make those adjustments against Auburn.
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:31 pm to
quote:

lsuexpert57
quote:

That one was free. All other remotely funny lines will be a nickle apiece!
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:33 pm to
quote:

Josh D's cut block on that play was RIDICULOUS and Lemonier treated him like the new kid in line for lunch repeatedly Saturday.

I like the guy but my main problem is WTF does it take you an entire half of football to see the poor guy getting his arse whipped out there? At what point do you lift a finger?

That cut-block was not executed properly and Lemonier did not ever leave his feet. He had to put a hand down and it hardly slowed him. I don't care whether Mett didn't pull the trigger or not, Lemonier shouldn't have been there because if that block's executed properly then he's laying on his stomach and flailing helplessly.

I'll say this like I mentioned to someone else during a conversation earlier today. I always found that Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook's theory on his business made a lot of sense to me.

Go fast. Break things. Apologize afterwards.

We drew up blocking assignments that left Josh D one-on-one against Corey Lemonier this past Saturday in the leadup to the game. The OL Coach and I know for a fact the HC review and collaborate on the blocking schemes (It was a HUGE point of contention for Searles & Miles as Miles would completely rewrite Searles schemes).

The collaboration of our HC & our OC/OL Coach was such that even though they saw Josh D beaten TWICE in consecutive plays by an Idaho Vandal DE, we were left watching him go against a far, far better player on the road in a hostile environment completley one-on-one.

He got benched last week for a 'contusion' after the two plays. But suddenly he's going to be able to do what he couldn't? Worse yet, when he's getting repeatedly beaten off the edge on pass-pro, and looked lost on zone-blocking assignments when he had outside help, we did NOTHING.

The staff did not adjust until the 3rd quarter to provide him help. WTF is going on? Who is responsible for the total lack of adjustment there?

I'm not losing my head or melting down. I'm wondering how our HC & our OL/OC can draw that up and think it will work, and then stubbornly not bother to make the adjustment in-game, but wait for halftime.

We had tape showing it couldn't be done, but we tried it anyway, and then were slow to react when we got it jammed down our throats at LT. My question is WHO is responsible for that? My opinion is HC & OL/OC. But how can these two guys-who I want to trust and whom I want to give lots of credit to-be so oblivious to what many, many fans already know?

It breeds distrust and enmity out of your fanbase when you look at that sort've thing objectively. I'm sorry if I'm called a rantard, negatard, etc.


Very, very well said.
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
Member since Oct 2008
1627 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:36 pm to
I actually agree with quite a bit of your post. I don't take quite as dim of a view of the cut block as you though. Lemonier's knees never hit the ground, but he WAS sufficiently slowed for the play to work if Mett had thrown the ball on time as was intended.

That said however, its pointless to focus on one single block in course of a whole game. JD is NOT and elite LT an will never be one. His game Saturday nite was "OK". Not great, not outstanding, just OK. He has lots of limitations. The question becomes, does the coaching staff feel that these are limitations that can be schemed around and overcome. They obviously hope so and are adjusting as they see fit. Will it work. We will see. In the mean time I am sure they are feverishly working on plans B and C.
This post was edited on 9/24/12 at 3:37 pm
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81328 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:37 pm to
to be fair, Coach Stud was on a Zebra Cake break when Josh D gave up those 2 idaho sacks
Posted by CamdenTiger
Member since Aug 2009
64532 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:37 pm to
quote:

shot side option.


Freudian slip
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:38 pm to
quote:

I am sure they are feverishly working on plans B and C.


I'm hoping, but not expecting it.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45412 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:45 pm to
somebody needs to get on the Stud / zebra cake fark.
Posted by 2007lsuno1
Marietta, GA
Member since Aug 2009
6692 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:48 pm to
quote:

TheDoc

In an attempt to lighten the mood on this subject, this is one of the funniest lines I have ever read: "Bitch, please. I am 42 and have fapped to pretty azalea bushes."
Good one Doc.
Posted by GFunk
Denham Springs
Member since Feb 2011
14969 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:49 pm to
quote:

lsuexpert57
quote:

I actually agree with quite a bit of your post. I don't take quite as dim of a view of the cut block as you though. Lemonier's knees never hit the ground, but he WAS sufficiently slowed for the play to work if Mett had thrown the ball on time as was intended.

That said however, its pointless to focus on one single block in course of a whole game. JD is NOT and elite LT an will never be one. His game Saturday nite was "OK". Not great, not outstanding, just OK. He has lots of limitations. The question becomes, does the coaching staff feel that these are limitations that can be schemed around and overcome. They obviously hope so and are adjusting as they see fit. Will it work. We will see. In the mean time I am sure they are feverishly working on plans B and C.


Trust me, I'm not focusing on just that.

It's just that not only did he get sacked, he also had a fumble forced on the play by Lemonier. Which was recovered by Auburn. Who then went on to score a TD.

That one play cost us 7 points minimum based on the swing. Now I'm not absolving Mett because I think he made a poor throw where we had an easy 6 on a vertical route deep late in the 2nd half of the throw to Shep. He shades it to the interior of the left hash, Shep breaks and catches it, 6 points and its party over.

He threw it to the boundary side of the right hash and the DB made an easy play as he was already playing coverage to that side of the field. Simple things like that can cost you.

That's 14 points. Some OL, some QB. Some are correctable with simple coaching and awareness (QB/throwing issues). Some are not so simple and can only be minimized or mitigated by coaching.

Coaching that was strangely slow if not altogether tone-deaf to react to game-play results and draw up gameplans in the first place.

68 should've NEVER been left one-on-one. NEVER.
Posted by Maximus
Member since Feb 2004
81328 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:49 pm to
i'll start a meme generator so you can take a standard stud pic and at the top write something like "could have designed a way not to leave josh d on lemoiner one on one" at the top then on the bottom it'll say "ate a zebra cake instead"
Posted by Hugo Stiglitz
Member since Oct 2010
72937 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:50 pm to
I'm actually convinced Stud is big on zebra cakes.
Posted by ATLTiger
#TreyBiletnikoffs
Member since Sep 2003
45412 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:50 pm to


"Mmmmm.... zebra cakes"
Posted by lsuexpert57
Back Brusly
Member since Oct 2008
1627 posts
Posted on 9/24/12 at 3:51 pm to
quote:

I'm hoping, but not expecting it.


Ok...help me understand something about your mindset. I'm curious because it seems to be shared by many on here who have in common a negative view of things.

We have on our staff, a HC, an OC/line coach, a RB coach, a TE coach and probably a couple more offensive coaches that I am missing. All these guys are professional football coaches who have risen to the top of their profession. Good enough to be hired as a coach at one of the top 5 CFB programs in the country. What is it that makes you think that they aren't working on all sorts of options and contingencies as they apply to the offense?

What leads you to belive that all their years of experience at both coaching playing football has gone to waste and they can't see things that ranters think are simple solutions? I mean how do people get there in their minds. I just don't get it. What leads a guy like Maximus and others like him to think they can see things that the staff cannot? Are they CEO's of big companies and just solve football problems in their spare time. Or are they actually clueless enough to think they are actually smarter than the guys who do it for a living. Please explain it to me cuz I just don't get it!
Jump to page
Page First 3 4 5 6 7 ... 11
Jump to page
first pageprev pagePage 5 of 11Next pagelast page

Back to top
logoFollow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News
Follow us on X, Facebook and Instagram to get the latest updates on LSU Football and Recruiting.

FacebookXInstagram