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re: Miles defining lesson? - We can only hope.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:33 am to TheFranchise
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:33 am to TheFranchise
Actually, it is more about recruiting. Saban is a master at this and the evidence showed in his having a quality of players where he could rotate roughly 15 players on the defensive line alone. We don't have that kind of depth. Alabama had better talent and more of it. If Steele and Coach O are successful in getting the type of players they are seeking, it will take a couple of years, but we will improve in that area with time. They are currently working with much of Chavis' material, which mostly does not fit the profile player they are looking for in their D scheme.
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:35 am to TheFranchise
this game was over after the 2015 signing day. they have obliterated the competition with their line talent. hell, A'shwn Robinson was an OFFENSIVE lineman coming out of texas. kudos to saban and smart for the eventual switch and devlopment. everybody wants that special skill playe and granted, they are important, but this game will always be won in the trenches. if you cant run, you cant win. if you cant run, theres no point in play action. no one bites. youre being stopped with 4-7 man fronts, which keeps the receivers covered. pass protection also fails. we need beef and we need it now.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:35 am to damnedoldtigah
To everyone that thinks that the play calling was great and it was lack of execution. What will you say when we are running the same 4 sets against Arkansas and it is tied late in the 3rd qtr and Fournette only has about 65 yards!
Les is a fukn clown.
Les is a fukn clown.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:45 am to mattytiger123
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mattytiger123
I'm a posi-tiger but come on man
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I thought the gameplan was fine
Either you don't know football, or you are flaming, sarcasm, or you are kin to Miles.
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Bama was just that much better; a matchup nightmare
Yes, when we line up in a I formation and try to pound it down their strength...you are correct. A DC's dream come true...run blitz every play...
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I liked the play call at the beginning of the 2nd half, Brandon just made a mistake. He seemed rustled on some throws
I agree with this, it is what should have been done the entire game...very good play call here, and BH was not under pressure. The stage was to big for BH again...you could tell from the opening throw of the night when it sailed 5ft over the recs head. I did not expect it to, but it was. This play to start the third quarter was a critical mistake that completely changed the momentum that we had gained at the end of the first half. A score here after a good solid drive, and the defense gets to rest and the confidence is sky high.
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Our lack of depth in the front 7 showed as the game went on. It happens
Lack of depth showed due to consecutive three and outs all night, or quick scores. No sustained drives. Would happen to anyone, not just LSU, with that top difference.
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Lets move on and hope for an 11 win, one loss season
You hope for an 11 win season, me, I'm hoping for a 13 win season. You know winning the SEC and getting into and winning the playoff is not out of the question...and the odds aren't staggering....hell, Bama is only a 7 pt favorite on the road at State this week....and other things can happen as well. LSU takes care of business, they will have a great shot at getting in the playoff.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:53 am to higgins
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higgins
you never disappoint
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this game was over after the 2015 signing day.
I know right, the nerve of LSU trying to take the lead on the first series of the second half. BH threw that Int because he knew that it just didn't matter...game was already over.
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they have obliterated the competition with their line talent
Coming into this game they had one of the worst OL in Saban history. Our D did fine until they wore down due to excessive 3 and outs....LSU was tied late in the first half with a chance at the lead in the third.
Wisconsin, Ole Miss, Arkansas, Tenn, hell even sorry arse Texas A&M scored over 20 on Alabama. You are delusional.
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if you cant run, you cant win. if you cant run, theres no point in play action. no one bites. youre being stopped with 4-7 man fronts, which keeps the receivers covered. pass protection also fails. we need beef and we need it now.
Alabama was run blitzing all night...ALL NIGHT...they were daring LSU to let Harris beat them. Miles was reluctant and kept running into the teeth of the defense on first down, for most of the night....and many times on second, before finally passing on third and long. The few times we exploited the WR matchup advantage that we had, deep down the field...it worked. Unfortunately, we kept trying to go to short and intermediate passes..which aren't the strength of BH. I'd rather BH throw 3 deep balls until they quit the run blitzing...chances of connecting on one were greater than getting a first down by running.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:54 am to Football_Freak
I find it amazing how those who defend Miles to the very end come up with this business that:
"Oh, Bama is BUILT to beat LSU."
Okay, fine. They beat most everyone else too. They win more than we do.
So ... why don't we build a team specifically to beat the gumps? If that means going to a spread, so be it.
We'll still win the same amount of games we've been winning or more--and we've been winning less than Bama.
"Oh, Bama is BUILT to beat LSU."
Okay, fine. They beat most everyone else too. They win more than we do.
So ... why don't we build a team specifically to beat the gumps? If that means going to a spread, so be it.
We'll still win the same amount of games we've been winning or more--and we've been winning less than Bama.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:54 am to Uncs
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To everyone that thinks that the play calling was great and it was lack of execution. What will you say when we are running the same 4 sets against Arkansas and it is tied late in the 3rd qtr and Fournette only has about 65 yards! Les is a fukn clown
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:57 am to Uncs
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To everyone that thinks that the play calling was great and it was lack of execution. What will you say when we are running the same 4 sets against Arkansas and it is tied late in the 3rd qtr and Fournette only has about 65 yards! Les is a fukn clown
Panic much? Because that has happened all year other than Bama right? Including Florida? What will you be saying when it doesn't? I know the answer...you will hide in the weeds until the next opportunity to bash.
Btw...I RA'd....bash his stubbornness, but calling him a clown is ridiculous and shows your lack of intelligence after the numbers he has posted at LSU. You may not like him, but I don't know many clowns that would lead damn near the nation in wins over the last 10 years.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 6:58 am to Tigerinthehollow
Look, we can't help it if we're in the same division with the greatest college fb coach of all time.
But rather than be resigned to it like some on here want to do to excuse five straight losses, I say that the LSU program recruits on par with the gumps and we need to do whatever it takes, change whatever needs to be changed, to beat Alabama.
...even if that means taking a serious look at the way this program--specifically this offense--is being run from the very top.
But rather than be resigned to it like some on here want to do to excuse five straight losses, I say that the LSU program recruits on par with the gumps and we need to do whatever it takes, change whatever needs to be changed, to beat Alabama.
...even if that means taking a serious look at the way this program--specifically this offense--is being run from the very top.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:08 am to Football_Freak
Miles will NEVER change.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:22 am to km
[quote]Miles will NEVER change
Why is this so hard for so many to understand! Tigers best chance to beat Bama is to have better on the field talent that will over come the lame play calling, or to rely on another team to beat Bama so they can back door into the playoffs.
Why is this so hard for so many to understand! Tigers best chance to beat Bama is to have better on the field talent that will over come the lame play calling, or to rely on another team to beat Bama so they can back door into the playoffs.
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Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:22 am to Football_Freak
If he has not learned it by now he never will.
That has been the knock on him for years.
Cant win Championships without a passing game a some point.
He does not get the team reps against weaker teams and it shows.
That has been the knock on him for years.
Cant win Championships without a passing game a some point.
He does not get the team reps against weaker teams and it shows.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:32 am to Football_Freak
I agree. Lsu has the personnel to run any type of offense it wants.
There's no reason Miles can't take a blue print from Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Ohio State and Utah and any team that has put 30+ points on the board and implement that into a game plan specifically for this game.
Lsu doesn't have to change its offensive identity for a whole season but it sure as hell would be a good idea to do it for one game.
Could you imagine if we came out and ran a completely different offense than what Saban was expecting? It would drive him batshit crazy. The man has lobbied to change rules against a hurry up offense. That's because he can't defend it! When your opponent is screaming from a mountain top what his weakness is you do exactly what he's terrified of and kick his arse!
There's no reason Miles can't take a blue print from Ole Miss, Oklahoma, Ohio State and Utah and any team that has put 30+ points on the board and implement that into a game plan specifically for this game.
Lsu doesn't have to change its offensive identity for a whole season but it sure as hell would be a good idea to do it for one game.
Could you imagine if we came out and ran a completely different offense than what Saban was expecting? It would drive him batshit crazy. The man has lobbied to change rules against a hurry up offense. That's because he can't defend it! When your opponent is screaming from a mountain top what his weakness is you do exactly what he's terrified of and kick his arse!
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:37 am to mattytiger123
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I thought the gameplan was fine. Bama was just that much better; a matchup nightmare. I liked the play call at the beginning of the 2nd half, Brandon just made a mistake.
While I agree, it's one of the least popular opinions on this board. The notion that our boys simply got beat is a hard pill to swallow for many.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 7:40 am to Football_Freak
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Miles defining lesson? - We can only hope. by Football_Freak
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:08 am to luzana
The reason those 3 teams you mentioned gave bama a hard time was bc their offenses made bama play the whole field side to side and up and down . Lsu did not . All bama had to do was load up box 8 to 9 men , and play on the line of scrimmage. Saban comes out of these games looking like a genius , but it is probably one of the simplest games he coaches every year.
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:12 am to Football_Freak
Miles is the definition of insanity
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:12 am to mattytiger123
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I thought the gameplan was fine. Bama was just that much better; a matchup nightmare. I liked the play call at the beginning of the 2nd half, Brandon just made a mistake. He seemed rustled on some throws. Our lack of depth in the front 7 showed as the game went on. It happens. Lets move on and hope for an 11 win, one loss season
Cam?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:13 am to Football_Freak
He hasn't changed in years. Why start now?
Posted on 11/11/15 at 8:14 am to DEG
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While I agree, it's one of the least popular opinions on this board. The notion that our boys simply got beat is a hard pill to swallow for many.
Attributing this to lack of talent is absurd. Losing the game is one thing...but to get totally arse raped dry is another. There have been lesser talented teams with lesser talented offensive lines that have beaten Alabama in the last 5 years.
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