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Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:45 pm to lsumatt
quote:
Here is the lsumatt poll
1 {'LSU';} 10-1 1.19
2 {'OSU';} 10-1 1.075
3 {'Alabama';} 9-1 1.072
4 {'Arkansas';} 9-1 1.031
5 {'Kansas St';} 8-2 0.995
6 {'Houston';} 10-0 0.989
7 {'Stanford';} 10-1 0.962
8 {'Oklahoma';} 8-2 0.961
9 {'Boise St';} 9-1 0.946
10 {'Va Tech';} 9-1 0.939
Most of those teams have played 11 games at this point. LSU is 11-0. Bama is 10-1. Am I missing something?
quote:
Each team is rated on a scale from 1.0 (very good) to 0.0 (very bad).
You have four teams with rankings above 1. How is that possible?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:49 pm to crimsonsaint
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Most of those teams have played 11 games at this point. LSU is 11-0. Bama is 10-1. Am I missing something?
I need to look into that. The numbers and rankings look right, just not the records
quote:
You have four teams with rankings above 1. How is that possible?
That was discussed. Nothing keeps teams bounded necessarily between 0 and 1.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:51 pm to lsumatt
Simplified for math challenged idiots like me:
((L+T=11W0L)= 1BCS)+ 3W = BCSNC
L=Les Miles
T=Talent
W=Wins
L=Losses
BCS=Standing
BCSNC=Champions
((L+T=11W0L)= 1BCS)+ 3W = BCSNC
L=Les Miles
T=Talent
W=Wins
L=Losses
BCS=Standing
BCSNC=Champions
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 10:58 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:53 pm to crimsonsaint
I just made a typo for LSU when pasting in. It is right now.
I think records reflect wins over FBS schools.
I think records reflect wins over FBS schools.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:55 pm to crimsonsaint
lsumatt has single-handedly raised the collective iq for us with one post. freaking amazing 
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:55 pm to lsumatt
Well damn. Sugar bowl here we come!
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:56 pm to lsumatt
quote:Maybe I can help. I have a lot of time these days. Tell me what you need. (I have a minor in math with a master's degree in computer science.)
If I had time, I think it would be neat to get a bunch of historical data and choose a value that matches the curve.
On a side note, have you tried to come up with a better strength of schedule formula than the one that's used by the BCS? I believe it's the same formula that was created in the 1940's. Maybe earlier.
I was working on one that also takes into account the current rankings, not just win/loss record.
(2OR + OOR)/3 just doesn't cut it for me.
This post was edited on 11/21/11 at 11:00 pm
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:58 pm to lsumatt
quote:
lsumatt
can you color where it doesnt go outside the lines?
If not I smarter then you!..
Posted on 11/21/11 at 10:58 pm to LSU Tigerhead
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Hey Matt, have you tried to come up with a better strength of schedule formula than the one that's used? I believe it's the same formula that was created in the 1940's.
That SOS formula may be reported on websites as a gauge but it isn't used by any computers and isn't used for the BCS at all. SOS is inherently built in to the computer polls (mine included) and is too difficult to call "a formula" because it depends on all 120 teams in a complicated way.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:01 pm to lsumatt
quote:I thought for certain it was used. Good to know.
That SOS formula may be reported on websites as a gauge but it isn't used by any computers and isn't used for the BCS at all. SOS is inherently built in to the computer polls (mine included) and is too difficult to call "a formula" because it depends on all 120 teams in a complicated way.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:01 pm to LSU Tigerhead
quote:
Hey Matt, have you tried to come up with a better strength of schedule formula than the one that's used? I believe it's the same formula that was created in the 1940's. Maybe earlier.
that would be awesome. the way SOS are calculated now i dont think tells the whole picture. Its easier to win a championship playing 12X west virginia than 2 Bama and a Oregon on a schedule.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:02 pm to lsumatt
Matt, I am working on a project that entails some statistics that are just over the heads of all involved...do you do any consulting work?....
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:04 pm to LSU Tigerhead
quote:
I thought for certain it was used. Good to know.
Something similar was used prior to 2004, but no longer.
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:08 pm to lsumatt
Just curious, Matt- What do you do for a living?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:09 pm to Griffmanjoe
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What do you do for a living?
professor
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:10 pm to lsumatt
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professor
at st eds or UT?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:14 pm to lsumatt
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That was discussed. Nothing keeps teams bounded necessarily between 0 and 1.
You stated your scale is 1 to 0. Is it not?
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I think records reflect wins over FBS schools.
Since it's your own personal poll you should know what it reflects. And what good is a poll that picks and chooses which teams should be stricken from the record?
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:14 pm to TigerFan55555
UT
Posted on 11/21/11 at 11:17 pm to crimsonsaint
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You stated your scale is 1 to 0. Is it not?
The nominal scale is 0 to 1.0. Your 1-1 record starts off with a loss to a 1.0 rating team. But nothing says a team can't be higher than 1.0.
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And what good is a poll that picks and chooses which teams should be stricken from the record?
All games and teams are included as the explanation clearly states. I simply reported the record against FBS schools.
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