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re: LSU Squat Numbers
Posted on 7/16/11 at 9:51 pm to Dredsof DOOM
Posted on 7/16/11 at 9:51 pm to Dredsof DOOM
Anybody want to buy two season tickets?
Dreds has convinced me we are going to suck big time this year. I'll keep them in my name in case we get a new S&C coach. Maybe we'll get a new head coach that won't let TM be so complacent.
Dreds has convinced me we are going to suck big time this year. I'll keep them in my name in case we get a new S&C coach. Maybe we'll get a new head coach that won't let TM be so complacent.
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Posted on 7/16/11 at 9:52 pm to Haplochrom
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I'll let someone else play with this a-hole, I'm not going to argue facts with his opinion.
What facts have you presented? Nothing other than saying smaller is more functional. Okay if that was the case why aren't all CFB squads doing P90x?
Posted on 7/16/11 at 9:53 pm to Dredsof DOOM
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What facts have you presented? Nothing other than saying smaller is more functional. Okay if that was the case why aren't all CFB squads doing P90x?
He never said anything about p90x. He said that your 1RM is not the lift that generates the most power.. it's hard to be explosive when you can literally barely move the weight. If power is the rate at which work is performed.. then it stands to reason that the most power is generated by (as he said) a weight below your 1RM.
"As a simple example, burning a kilogram of coal releases much more energy than does detonating a kilogram of TNT,[3] but because the TNT reaction releases energy much more quickly, it delivers far more power than the coal."
This post was edited on 7/16/11 at 9:57 pm
Posted on 7/16/11 at 9:56 pm to skullhawk
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Dreds has convinced me we are going to suck big time this year.
Nowhere have I said that we suck. I have simply said that Moffitt has time and time again been saved by superior genetics not his program.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 9:57 pm to Dredsof DOOM
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Nowhere have I said that we suck. I have simply said that Moffitt has time and time again been saved by superior genetics not his program.
That's gotta be why we have been competing with the rest of the programs with elite talent. Unless you are suggesting that our talent is the best in the nation or that their S&C coaches suck too..
The only other option I see.. is that we have superior coaching and inferior S&C. PP7 is probably one of the most explosive and impressive athlete we've had at LSU this decade.. and his weight room numbers weren't unreal.
This post was edited on 7/16/11 at 10:01 pm
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:00 pm to bmy
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If power is the rate at which work is performed.. then it stands to reason that the most power is generated by (as he said) a weight below your 1RM.
Congrats you can copy and paste wikipedia although it still makes no sense to the context I am presenting.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:00 pm to Dredsof DOOM
Better post this stuff on the SEC rant. The guy at Bama is a TM protege. I'll bet they are doing this screwed up program as well or maybe complacency hasn't set in over there. Oh wait, Saban is getting good genetics in that program too. Never mind, you win.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:02 pm to Dredsof DOOM
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Congrats you can copy and paste wikipedia although it still makes no sense to the context I am presenting.
It makes perfect sense and it's a damn good analogy
though, you're stubborn. What exactly is your gripe with Moffitts philosphy btw? Do you have a specific problem with it? Or do you just talk to hear yourself talk? What would you propose that he do differently?
This post was edited on 7/16/11 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:08 pm to bmy
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hat exactly is your gripe with Moffitts philosphy btw?
He is using 1970's strength and conditioning philosophies. We need someone more modern such as Christian Thibodeau to come in and revamp our program and turn it into a 21st century athletic program.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:12 pm to bmy
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Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:35 pm to Dredsof DOOM
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He is using 1970's strength and conditioning philosophies. We need someone more modern such as Christian Thibodeau to come in and revamp our program and turn it into a 21st century athletic program.
First off.. CT is hardly a revolutionary. He does more or less the same thing everyone else has before him.. tweak old routines, recycle old routines, etc.
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The approach I prefer is to use a circuit of 3-5 basic movements, performed for sets of 2-3 reps with your max force weight (around 75-85% depending on your level). Go from one exercise to the next with as little rest as humanly possible. Obviously the exercises should hit different structures or motor patterns since we are after whole body performance in that case. - CT
LINK
Two of the most imposing teams in the SEC are LSU and Alabama. Both of them have S&C coaches who operate under the same philosophies. You talk about a modern program and you post no examples.. care to post some information of a few teams who have 'modern' programs?
I'd bet just about every major CFB program in the nation uses between 3 and 8 reps a majority of the time depending on the time of the year.
This post was edited on 7/16/11 at 10:41 pm
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:38 pm to Dredsof DOOM
I don't think most know that moffitt did S and C at tennesse and miami.
Both schools won titles with his system.
Both schools won titles with his system.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:39 pm to dreaux
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I don't think most know that moffitt did S and C at tennesse and miami.
Both schools won titles with his system.
Superior genetics brah.
This post was edited on 7/16/11 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:48 pm to bmy
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First off.. CT is hardly a revolutionary. He does more or less the same thing everyone else has before him.. tweak old routines, recycle old routines, etc.
Have you read his programs?
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:52 pm to Haplochrom
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not true. If you are familiar with moffitt, you would know this. Moving faster with submaximal weight has a higher power output than grinding through a 100% lift. Train slow, play slow.
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Moffitt was constantly using a tendo unit to fine tune the percentages for the most weight while being explosive. Its been a few years but ever since then the lift numbers are going down while the team plays better. A noticeable shift from big massive people and lifts to explosive smaller athletes.
these are the correct answers. There is a reason Boxers only do mostly body weight excercises and use speed bags. If you want strong and slow go watch the big 10, the sec is all about speed.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:53 pm to Dredsof DOOM
quote:im a family friend. i was close to his programs from 03-07. he is only putting out talent because he gets the best to start with. the man is outdated by everyone is too stupid to see it.
Have you read his programs?
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:55 pm to Dredsof DOOM
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He is using 1970's strength and conditioning philosophies.
Its so cliche to say this.
1970's training from the best.
Another video from Vernor Gunther
This is 1970's philosphies. Static holds, eccentric timing, weighted drills/movements, etc... i saw none of this.
This is what cutting edge power athletes are doing TODAY...
Hmmm... these guys pay him to get ready for the combine.
I saw every one of these things all the time with moffitt. those phone books and boards by the bench? 70's workouts? Glute ham raises? towel pullups? chain pulls, weighted situps, high intensity and low rest. those are outdated programs?
you just dont like moffitt. the man wins with new athletes year in and out. he always tries to be cutting edge and he changes what he can without losing the system that he has built.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:55 pm to Haplochrom
quote:who? what program?
im a family friend. i was close to his programs from 03-07. he is only putting out talent because he gets the best to start with. the man is outdated by everyone is too stupid to see it.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:55 pm to Dredsof DOOM
This dude might be my favorite rantard now. Welcome to the board.
Posted on 7/16/11 at 10:56 pm to dreaux
quote:its verbatim what he said about moffitt, im repeating it about thibodeau to show how it could just as easily apply to him.
who? what program?
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