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re: LSU football has only two penalties to it's name...
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:28 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:28 pm to TigersOfGeauxld
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violations suspended the coach, revoked the player's scholarship, and notified the NCAA without anyone telling them to.
That's how a creditable football program is run.
yeah, that sounds clean.
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Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:32 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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I stated LSU has not gotten caught as much. Can you prove me wrong? No? Have a nice day!
Easily. Because LSU has only two penalties. those are the facts. Anything else is hearsay, and not admissible.
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I already told you. As for people, I committed one today and did not get caught
It's always an adventure trying to figure out what you're trying to say, and today is no different. I'm guessing english isn't your native language?
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Just as you adamantly stated that JJ is a better QB
Here's the quote. Try reading slowly.
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I compared last year's stats for both Barkley and JJ, and JJ's were better. That's just the facts. From last year. Funny you still remember that.
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That's were you lost what little credibility you had.
What would you know about credibility? Nothing sound about right?
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Don't stop believeing man
Still missing the point. Belief don't mean shite. If you can't prove it, you shouldn't open your mouth and look stupid.
Obviously, this piece of advice comes as news to you. As anyone would know who's familiar with your posting history.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:34 pm to TheoreticalTiger
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what site?
CAM NEWTON / AUBURN PFP INVESTIGATION THREAD
Edit: Fixed link
This post was edited on 11/18/10 at 10:40 pm
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:35 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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yeah, that sounds clean.
No doubt that shite was shady, but LSU fans didn't stick their heads in sand like two other programs I know:
1) This was acted on very quickly
2) full disclosure was given to NCAA
3) the coach resigned before he was fired; fans were pushing for this
4) LSU fans would have accepted our lumps without blaming the NCAA. We place the blame square on the heads of the institution, coach and players involved.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:36 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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yeah, that sounds clean.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:45 pm to SanFranTiger
It was a GA and a funny story. Ricky Chapman from Winnfield, If I remember correctly, was taking some N.O players around. He caught a ride to N.O with them and on the way bought them a hamburger and one for himself, too. That was so funny that the NCAA would snoop out something as small as that.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 10:48 pm to DandyD
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It was a GA and a funny story. Ricky Chapman from Winnfield, If I remember correctly, was taking some N.O players around. He caught a ride to N.O with them and on the way bought them a hamburger and one for himself, too. That was so funny that the NCAA would snoop out something as small as that.
The sad thing was, if he'd just told the truth when asked by the compliance office, that probably would have been the end of it.
Posted on 11/18/10 at 11:32 pm to LSUTANGERINE
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many people have committed crimes, but were never caught. You really seem to believe that those were the only two LSU has ever comitted.
The big difference is in Institutional Control if you do not have it that is where the problems begin. LSU does not have a history of no Institutional Control and therefore does not have a history of committing rules violations like with most of the schools that have no Institutional Control because that is what the NCAA looks for. Also they look for a history of committing thosevrules violations and that is what sets the severity of penalties against a said University. That school is not only breaking the NCAA rules but they are also breaking their Conference rules.
The big reason LSU has not had a problem with rules violations are that they have guidelines in place that are followed and there are always more than a single set of eyes that is watching everything that goes on and now since back when LSU broke that one rule under Saban, LSU with Saban's guidance setup the Athletic Academic Center where every rule is taught and inforced so that every Coach and Athlete knows and adheres to those rules.
Oh, every school breaks rules they just haven't been caught. There is no such thing as anyting that is perfect with humans you just try to get as close to perfect as you can. That is where Institutional Control comes in and does not allow a rule violation to fester into something worse and does not become a habbit it is corrected right then and there.
I will go as far to say that any school that looses schollies and vacates/forfits wins have a history of committing violations and does not have Institutional Control and that is where LSU is different than those schools.
Posted on 11/19/10 at 9:45 am to CaseyMc2
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There is no such thing as anyting that is perfect with humans you just try to get as close to perfect as you can. That is where Institutional Control comes in and does not allow a rule violation to fester into something worse and does not become a habbit it is corrected right then and there.
Well said.
A bit of history is necessary to put this matter in perspective: William of Occam was an English Franciscan friar and scholastic philosopher, and is commonly known for Occam's razor, the methodological principle that bears his name.
Occam's razor is popularly summarized as "the simplest explanation is more likely the correct one."
LSU is one of the least penalized football programs in the country. Fact. The simplest explanation for that is it's because LSU just isn't committing penalties. Period.
As CaseyMc2 pointed out, you can only try to get as close to perfect as you can. LSU is trying, as evidenced by the Compliance Office's prompt action in the McCarthy violations.
Tiger fans can be rightfully proud of our school's history of playing by the rules. Because many of our 700+ wins have come against schools that aren't.
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