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LSU Coach Qualifications?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:03 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:03 am
In your opinion, what should the qualifications be, in order to be the head football coach at LSU? What qualifications does Orgeron possess, that make him deserving?
In your opinion, what should the qualifications be, in order to be the OC at LSU? What qualifications does Ensminger possess, that make him deserving?
I completely understand that our opinions do not mean shite and these guys are the coaches like it or not. I am just curious what many of the Orgeron defenders are seeing. I will not bash Orgeron in this thread or fight with anyone. Just trying to understand a viewpoint from some, that I do not agree with. For me personally, it would be so much easier to accept mediocrity, if the coaching hires would have been qualified candidates with a history of some success. The frustration evolves from the fact that there seemed to be zero effort in searching for qualified candidates. I still hope for success for all LSU athletics.
In your opinion, what should the qualifications be, in order to be the OC at LSU? What qualifications does Ensminger possess, that make him deserving?
I completely understand that our opinions do not mean shite and these guys are the coaches like it or not. I am just curious what many of the Orgeron defenders are seeing. I will not bash Orgeron in this thread or fight with anyone. Just trying to understand a viewpoint from some, that I do not agree with. For me personally, it would be so much easier to accept mediocrity, if the coaching hires would have been qualified candidates with a history of some success. The frustration evolves from the fact that there seemed to be zero effort in searching for qualified candidates. I still hope for success for all LSU athletics.
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Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:05 am to A1tiger
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:06 am to Goldrush25
I'm sold
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:07 am to A1tiger
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:08 am to A1tiger
In my opinion, being a proven successful defensive coordinator at 3 different programs with a reputation of being detail oriented is a better qualification than a career D-Line coach who has never been a coordinator and whose only head coaching stint was the worst in that school's already pathetic history.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 10:10 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:08 am to StupidBinder
Do you think it was really a 1 inch binder?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:09 am to A1tiger
Yeah that’s probably giving him too much credit 
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:10 am to A1tiger
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LSU Coach Qualifications?
In your opinion, what should the qualifications be, in order to be the head football coach at LSU?
Well, we replaced Saban (a guy who won a title) with Miles ( a guy who won a title) with a guy with a career 10-25 head coaching record. so...I'd start with weeding out ANYONE who is not above .500 in their previous life as a head coach.
After that, you literally start at the top of the heap and decide who you think the best coaches in America are. You scratch out the names that are ultimately pipe dreams and by the time you get to possible names you've got guys with proven track records that could be talked into coaching at a Top 10 program with NFL caliber players in front of 100,000 for more than most coaches will make.
Or...if you decide you can;t grab a proven winner and you want to look elsewhere, you start looking at the best coordinators available and do the above.
Did I mention you don;t hire a proven loser...that's bad and makes what is ultimately a crap shoot in the best circumstances that much less likely to work out.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:19 am to A1tiger
What? Zero effort? No real coaching search? I never read such a thing.
Hot new take. If you are trying to reach a new goal-- congrats! This is the 500,000th post on this very topic.
Hot new take. If you are trying to reach a new goal-- congrats! This is the 500,000th post on this very topic.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:22 am to Goldrush25
motherfricker that looks delicious 
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 10:22 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:23 am to GeauxTigerTM
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you literally start at the top of the heap and decide who you think the best coaches in America are. You scratch out the names that are ultimately pipe dreams and by the time you get to possible names you've got guys with proven track records that could be talked into coaching at a Top 10 program with NFL caliber players in front of 100,000 for more than most coaches will make.
This.
LSU Administration missed this step, and their isn't a motherfricker on here who can defend that. Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:28 am to beauxroux
The question was concerning opinions of what qualifications the coach should have and possibly comparing that to the actual qualifications of Orgeron. Pretty sure that you were not forced to read or respond. If you aren't intelligent enough to read, then I'm not really interested in your opinion any way. Have a good weekend.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:34 am to A1tiger
I am not happy with coach O, but I love LSU. I may be calling for his head after second loss, like everyone else. BUT 100 THREADS EVERY DAY WITH THE SAME message is just pointless. Aleva and King have an email account. How about send them an email next time instead of beating this MF dead horse. 
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:34 am to A1tiger
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Pretty sure that you were not forced to read or respond.
Ditto
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Then I'm not really interested in your opinion any way
And yet you not only read it, but took the time to respond.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:38 am to A1tiger
He absolutely has to have a fiddle in his band. If he's gonna play in Texas, that BBQ is hot but not for a Louisiana man.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:39 am to TigerFan4040
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LSU Administration missed this step, and their isn't a motherfricker on here who can defend that.
Anyone that suggests that Orgeron should have fallen just behind Jimbo and Herman on our Wish List is either a liar or retarded. Again...this wasn;t 1980 when we had to beg Jerry Stoval to step in during the spring after Bo Rein was killed and we had no other options.
In this case, we should have had all of November of 2015, all Off-season and nearly all of the 2016 season to vet every possible candidate.
the suggestion that there were only two possible candidates and then Ed Orgeron is fricking laughable.
And let's be honest...not one person outside of his immediate family believes that horseshite. Were his name John Wilson and from Idaho, we'd have burned down Alleva's house had they tried to foist a man with a career 10-25 record on us after the past 16 seasons of success.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 10:50 am to GeauxTigerTM
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to vet every possible candidate
Exactly. And this is the exact reason why 95% of people on here have such a short fuse with Orgeron. Its really not personal, its the fact that simply put he is not qualified, and through his actions, press conferences, decisions and so on he has continued to prove it for months now.
Thats what I can't wrap my head around why people are so confused about fans being upset and critical of the whole program right now. It has nothing to do with whether or not you "support the program."
Hypothetical: What if you brought your favorite car to a local mechanic, and t-baw (who wasn't a certified mechanic) attempted to change your oil, failed to do so, an you end up with a burned up transmission. Would you not be upset, critical and wanting to hold t-baw accountable? Would the fact that you are upset and critical with the people responsible mean that you no longer "support" local businesses?
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:03 am to TigerFan4040
Until we get a better AD, it does not matter.
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:16 am to A1tiger
Wow, 18 replies and not the obvious :oneofus: or :talkslikeus: answer.
tRant disappoint.
ETA: Props to the gumbo.
tRant disappoint.
ETA: Props to the gumbo.
This post was edited on 2/9/18 at 11:17 am
Posted on 2/9/18 at 11:25 am to A1tiger
There's too many moving parts to go off history alone.
For example, I truly believe that if Saban didn't have the broad authority and control PLUS people like Burton Burns he wouldn't have been having this level of success. He'd still be very successful, but not near this level.
So history isn't a stand-alone predictor.
If you are going to require a past NC to even interview (which would be insane), I'd look at WHY they won their first one. What was the staff makeup, what was the talent level (recruiting rankings on the field), did they just dominate every game or were their "rough patches" where they made excellent corrections.
Not to mention, what was the trajectory from the day they took over until that NC. Steady improvement (allowing for hiccups) season-over-season is the first thing I'd look at. Then the list expands greatly from there.
For example, I truly believe that if Saban didn't have the broad authority and control PLUS people like Burton Burns he wouldn't have been having this level of success. He'd still be very successful, but not near this level.
So history isn't a stand-alone predictor.
If you are going to require a past NC to even interview (which would be insane), I'd look at WHY they won their first one. What was the staff makeup, what was the talent level (recruiting rankings on the field), did they just dominate every game or were their "rough patches" where they made excellent corrections.
Not to mention, what was the trajectory from the day they took over until that NC. Steady improvement (allowing for hiccups) season-over-season is the first thing I'd look at. Then the list expands greatly from there.
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