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re: LSU 2018 offense was one of the most productive in the last 10 years
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:59 am to Earlpearl
Posted on 2/11/19 at 9:59 am to Earlpearl
Do you think there was anything the coaching staff could have done to mask our poor offensive line play, namely our poor pass protection? Or was there just no chance to have a better offense given our personnel? My primary issue with our offense was how we disappeared in the red zone. I'm not sure how much that has to do with pass protection. I also think we could have tried to get the ball out of Burrow's hands more quickly in general, not just in the red zone. Your thoughts?
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Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:01 am to Earlpearl
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That said, THAT team losing 3 games was an underachievement.
So in 2012 at one point we were down 3 olineman, a rb, 2 lbs, cb and lost tm7 right before the season but finishing as the top 3 loss team and having a better sec record was underachieving.
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The 2018 team overachieved, had several high profile wins, and took a fking by the refs to keep from winning 11 games.
Several high profile wins?
We played 4 p5 teams that were good enough to not lose 5 games. We were 1-3.
Where are these SEVERAL high profile wins?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:03 am to Rickdaddy4188
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. I tried this with you and your post every towards me was a personal attack.
dude, you are the top insulter on this board. It's all you do.
You can't answer a direct question because you have been owned the last two days.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:03 am to RogerTheShrubber
Troy
Moffitt
Maddux
Lsu is less talented
Scheme only matter with less talent
Moffitt
Maddux
Lsu is less talented
Scheme only matter with less talent
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:05 am to Rickdaddy4188
Hey troy...
I respond in kind.
Have you seen me make a personal attack towards bencoleman lately?
No its because he has attacked me or acted jealous that my degree is from duke like you. Thats your go to insult as if i should apologize for my degree.
You have never owned anyone on this board. You just slink away everytime you get curb stomped.
Tell us again how unitiated is the same as unprovoked.
I respond in kind.
Have you seen me make a personal attack towards bencoleman lately?
No its because he has attacked me or acted jealous that my degree is from duke like you. Thats your go to insult as if i should apologize for my degree.
You have never owned anyone on this board. You just slink away everytime you get curb stomped.
Tell us again how unitiated is the same as unprovoked.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 10:07 am
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:06 am to Rickdaddy4188
Dude, it is impossible to have a rational discussion with you. I've read way too many threads with you being very condescending and a significant negative agenda. You are a true narcissist. You have zero ability to be objective because you voice your opinions on coaches, and go to great lengths to support your beliefs no matter what. To be objective would mean you could discredit your overall opinion, heaven forbid. That's why you aren't taken seriously on here.
I'll admit when I'm wrong. I'm objective enough to see the significant obstacles lsu faced on offense this year, and honestly believe they probably overachieved given the totality of the obstacles. That said, they now have experience, added talent, and continuity in coaching. I expect big things from the offense this year and I'll be very disappointed if they don't deliver and concede I'm wrong.
I'll admit when I'm wrong. I'm objective enough to see the significant obstacles lsu faced on offense this year, and honestly believe they probably overachieved given the totality of the obstacles. That said, they now have experience, added talent, and continuity in coaching. I expect big things from the offense this year and I'll be very disappointed if they don't deliver and concede I'm wrong.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:08 am to lsu2006
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Do you think there was anything the coaching staff could have done to mask our poor offensive line play, namely our poor pass protection?
I know your question was not directed to me, so apologies in advance.
Yes. LSU could have tried different things to mask poor line play. They tried max protection-- not successful for a number of reasons. However, the changes stopped there, imho-- until the bowl game. In that game, JB was leading rusher, if my memory serves. He was used a lot more as primary runner on many plays. I can't help but wonder if the failure to use him like that during year was fear of injury, with Brennen hurt and QB ranks decimated by attrition. Always wonder how effective Narcisse could have been if used in primary running role.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:10 am to Earlpearl
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Dude, it is impossible to have a rational discussion with you. I've read way too many threads with you being very condescending and a significant negative agenda. You are a true narcissist. You have zero ability to be objective because you voice your opinions on coaches, and go to great lengths to support your beliefs no matter what. To be objective would mean you could discredit your overall opinion, heaven forbid. That's why you aren't taken seriously on here.
Are you under the impression anykne takes you serious?
Im sorry facts shite on your opinions.
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I'll admit when I'm wrong.
You think the 2018 offense was good. In no way are you able to admit being wrong. Its amazing how vastly inferior teams can have more productive offenses than lsu yet you think there is nothing wrong schematically.
As if we couldn't have moved the pocket around.
As if we couldnt have stopped putting Burrow under center.
As if we couldnt have spread teams out instead of using archaic max protect.
These are just a few things that couldve been done but nope....
Our coaches did everything they could.
You dont know what youre talking about.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 10:11 am
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:11 am to Earlpearl
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I've read way too many threads with you being very condescending and a significant negative agenda
You can be both and still be rational.
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You have zero ability to be objective because you voice your opinions on coaches, and go to great lengths to support your beliefs no matter what.
Seems like how rational discussion works. People have opinion and then support said opinions.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:13 am to beauxroux
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Yes. LSU could have tried different things to mask poor line play. They tried max protection-- not successful for a number of reasons. However, the changes stopped there, imho-- until the bowl game. In that game, JB was leading rusher, if my memory serves. He was used a lot more as primary runner on many plays. I can't help but wonder if the failure to use him like that during year was fear of injury, with Brennen hurt and QB ranks decimated by attrition. Always wonder how effective Narcisse could have been if used in primary running rol
No good offense uses max protect anymore either.
Max protect brings more defenders to the los and shrinks the area the defense has to cover.
It also lets teams like bama use their strength( front 7) instead of of making their secondary make plays.
Ill never understand why we had burrow under center running play action when no one respected our run game.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:14 am to Rickdaddy4188
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You have never owned anyone on this board.
You've been wrong the last two days. You've been beat to hell and keep coming back.
Tell me how 106th in passing is "efficient"
What happened?
Was it talent? Scheme?
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:15 am to SammyTiger
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Seems like how rational discussion works. People have opinion and then support said opinions.
You have to realize that their stance isnt supported by facts except for the #6 ranking. So yes they hate when someone supports their stance with facts. I would too if my entire stance was based on opinion and.
Ive admitted to being wrong. I was wrong the other night when i attributed Burrows passing yards to ot.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:16 am to RogerTheShrubber
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You've been wrong the last two days. You've been beat to hell and keep coming back.
Tell me how 106th in passing is "efficient"
What happened?
Was it talent? Scheme?
You dont understand what passing yards per attempt is do you?
You dont understand that totals are a flawed way to rank offenses.
Offense a- 300 yards on 45 passes
Offense b- 299 yards on 30 passes
The UNINITIATED say offense A is better.
Youre entire premise about 2015 was they were 1 dimensional. Please explain how 2018 wasnt 1 dimensional. Our run game was garbage.
I was wrong about burrows yards in ot. Thats it. In no other way have you wom any argument. You want a vastky less productive 1 dimensional offense. Thats ignorant
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 10:22 am
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:18 am to boxcar willie
This would only be impressive if you could prove that LSU's productivity in 2018 was on pace or better than the rest of the country's productivity. If I have an investment account that's gained 20% but the rest of the market gained 40%, my accomplishment isn't that great.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:20 am to Rickdaddy4188
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UNITIATED
Who? Lol. Just picking on ya!
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:21 am to Theodore Links Watch
Hell of a first post. That is a good point.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:22 am to beauxroux
Thanks. Im doing 20 different things.
One day ill tell how Troy thought uninitiated meant unprovoked.
One day ill tell how Troy thought uninitiated meant unprovoked.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:26 am to Rickdaddy4188
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You dont understand what passing yards per attempt is do you?
Of course I do.
You just pick the stats that you think support your argument.
No one thinks 2015 passing game was decent but you.
Know why? "You don't know what you're seeing"
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:28 am to Rickdaddy4188
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I was wrong about burrows yards in ot.
You're damn right you were, but you kept on trying to post stupid redundant crap over and over.
Your problem is you cannot get off the 5-6 lines you repeat over and over and over....it's all you know. You're programmed, not cognizant.
Posted on 2/11/19 at 10:29 am to Rickdaddy4188
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Everyone knows that 7 ot game is the reason the averages are so high.
Let's not forget the defense also scored several TDs and gave the offense the ball inside the opponent's 20 numerous times including inside the 5 a couple times.
This post was edited on 2/11/19 at 10:30 am
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