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re: LSU 2 Major Recruiting Violations since 1980

Posted on 10/24/07 at 1:49 pm to
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Posted on 10/24/07 at 1:49 pm to
From the 1986 link:

quote:

Involved Sports:
Women's Basketball
Football
Men's Basketball


Although I think the one-year probation only covered one year for men's basketball, and even then was only limited to: "Maximum of 13 total and no initial grants in men's basketball for 1987-88."

In any case, if you click on the "View Public Report" button, you see the following summary on the first page:

quote:

MISSION, KANSAS--The National Collegiate Athletic Association's Committee on Infractions announced today that Louisiana State University has been placed on probation for a period of one year for violations occurring in the sport of football.

Included in the penalties is a requirement for the institution to submit a written report to the NCAA by February l, l987, that identifies measures taken to ensure that football coaching staff members are knowledgeable regarding NCAA legislation.

No sanction affecting postseason competition or television appearances was imposed against the university.

One current assistant football coach was involved in a recruiting violation in the case, and action was taken to require him to complete the course of instruction regarding NCAA legislation and to limit his off-campus recruiting activities during the l986-87 academic year. The violations did not involve any other current football coach.

Although the NCAA's action completes its review of the university's football program, inquiries are continuing into the men's basketball program, and the university will appear again before the Committee on Infractions at a future hearing.

"The violations found in football were not considered serious in nature," said Frank J. Remington, chair, NCAA Committee on Infractions, "and they did not demonstrate a pattern of abuse by the football coaching staff.

Posted by SirRohantheDefender
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Posted on 10/24/07 at 1:51 pm to
thanks Doc
Posted by Doc Fenton
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Member since Feb 2007
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Posted on 10/24/07 at 1:53 pm to
Who was the mysterious assistant football coach showering these prized recruits with free hotel rooms, expensive meals at Mike Anderson's (or wherever it was), and my favorite, "$33.48 to each young man as reimbursement for round-trip automobile transportation, even though another prospective student-athlete transported them for the visit"?
Posted by Rickety Cricket
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Posted on 10/24/07 at 2:03 pm to
How many times has Bama violated?
Posted by ksayetiger
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Posted on 10/24/07 at 2:04 pm to
quote:

How many times has Bama violated?


Which year?
Posted by sabanisarustedspoke
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 10/24/07 at 2:14 pm to
Like I said Tito Hortford
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/24/07 at 2:56 pm to
quote:

Also, how many other SEC football programs have never been put on probation?


Thank you very much, Port City, for the link to the NCAA Legislative Service Database Home Page ( LINK).

Now I can answer my own question:

1/11/57, Auburn -- 3 years probation
(And yet they still celebrate their 1957 national championship team; tsk, tsk.)

1/11/57, Florida -- 2 years probation

4/21/58, Auburn -- 3 years probation

10/27/59, Ole Miss -- 1 year probation
(I knew this team--the best since the '45 Army team--was too good to be true. And four days before the most famous LSU game in history! Say it ain't so Johnny Vaught!)

1/5/64, Alabama -- "public reprimand" (oooohh!!!)

4/19/64, Kentucky -- 1 year probation
(For out-of-season practice.)

4/12/65, Arkansas -- 1 year probation
(Yet another school who's only national championship team is tainted?)

1/8/67, South Carolina -- 2 years probation
(I'm not sure what's worse--having your only national championship team tainted by major NCAA infractions, or having your only ACC conference championship team tainted by them. Jeez.)

9/17/75, Mississippi State -- 2 years probation
(Did anyone notice?)

12/1/76, Kentucky -- 2 years probation
(More tainted championship teams. In this case, Kentucky's only team to go undefeated in SEC play.)

11/14/78, Georgia -- "public reprimand"
(Boy, the NCAA sure knows how to go after the big fish in the SEC, Alabama and Georgia.)

5/11/79, Auburn -- 2 years probation

11/13/80, Auburn -- 1 year probation

9/20/82, Georgia -- 1 year probation
(This kind of makes you wonder about that 1980 national championship team, Georgia's only AP title I believe.)

1/4/85, Georgia -- 1 year probation
(Bad, Dawgs! Bad!)

1/13/85, Florida -- 2 years probation
(I can't believe Florida got off this easily. Oh well, at least they took away the 1985 SEC title and gave it to Tennessee, and took away the 1984 SEC title and gave it to LSU--oh, wait a minute ... never mind. )

10/9/86, Tennessee -- 1 year probation

10/15/86, LSU -- 1 year probation (limited to basketball)

12/16/86, Ole Miss -- 2 years probation

9/20/90, Florida -- 2 years probation
(Mostly basketball related, but on the football side, Florida forfeits its third SEC title--this time, Tennessee gets its second cheap one.)

9/18/91, Tennessee -- 2 years probation
(For the second time in a row, the SEC strips Florida of its championship title in football and gives it to Tennessee, only to have Tennessee get caught committing a major infraction shortly thereafter.)

8/18/93, Auburn -- 2 years probation
(Another perfect season for Auburn; another team without a legitimate claim to a national championship.)

11/17/94, Ole Miss -- 4 years probation
(Wow. That's 7 years of probation racked up by the Rebels already.)

8/2/95, Alabama -- 2 years probation
(This didn't seem to stop Alabama from winning the SEC West tie-breaker with LSU in 1996, did it?)

3/7/96, Mississippi State -- 1 year probation

3/5/97, Georgia -- 2 years probation

1/31/02, Kentucky -- 3 years probation

2/1/02, Alabama -- 5 years probation
(Notice how Bama can't quite get away with as much as used to with The Bear.)

4/17/03, Arkansas -- 3 years probation

10/27/04, Mississippi State -- 4 years probation

11/16/05, South Carolina -- 3 years probation

11/17/05, Georgia Tech -- 2 years probation

Overview of Major NCAA Infractions Involving Football by SEC Teams
(29, plus 3 by USC, Arkansas, and GT, when they were part of the ACC or SWC)

Vanderbilt, 0
Tulane, 0
Sewanee, 0
LSU, 1: 1986
Georgia Tech, 1: 2005
South Carolina, 2: 1967, 2005
Arkansas, 2: 1965, 2003
Tennessee, 2: 1986, 1991
Alabama, 3: 1964, 1995, 2002
Florida, 3: 1957, 1985, 1990
Kentucky, 3: 1964, 1976, 2002
Mississippi State, 3: 1975, 1996, 2004
Ole Miss, 3: 1959, 1986, 1994
Georgia, 4: 1978, 1982, 1985, 1997
Auburn, 5: 1957, 1958, 1979, 1980, 1993
This post was edited on 10/24/07 at 3:06 pm
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
Member since Jul 2007
70138 posts
Posted on 10/24/07 at 3:00 pm to
Does GT count as SEC since it was in 2005?
Posted by Doc Fenton
New York, NY
Member since Feb 2007
52698 posts
Posted on 10/24/07 at 3:04 pm to
That's for you to decide. I just listed all the infractions listed for all 15 teams that were ever in the SEC. Interpret this information however you want.

Posted by SirRohantheDefender
Member since Aug 2005
14790 posts
Posted on 10/25/07 at 6:56 pm to
pretty good info


weve behaved rather well
Posted by tiger20
Member since Dec 2004
5508 posts
Posted on 10/25/07 at 10:57 pm to
LSU received draconian NCAA sanctions for one violation tht was committed by a booster. There were no proven violations by Dale Brown or Johnny Jones. Compare that to the penalties handed out to Ohio State, Georgia, Kansas, Kentucky, and Oklahoma. It's sickening what the NCAA did to this program and it's fan base.
Posted by lsutigermall
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Member since Nov 2006
7301 posts
Posted on 10/25/07 at 11:02 pm to
You're right but I can't remember the infraction. Where did Lester end up after Kansas?
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