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Posted on 5/30/09 at 9:59 pm to Brageous
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and we dont need to waste our final game starter.
My worry was that Coleman would be starting the Sunday 1:00 loser's bracket game. No doubt Ott is awsome. But to be precise, Ott is 3rd team All-American and Coleman is 1st team All-American. If we have to have one 3 up 3 down inning to win the National Title, and both guys are 100%, I'd give the ball to Coleman. Coleman's opponents batting avg. is about 40-50 pts lower than Ott's.
But please don't take this to mean that I've got anything against Ott.
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:02 pm to Choupique19
So we bring in coleman today, he gets it done possibly. Does he start tomorrow? If he does, he wont go as long. If not, who starts? I just dont get why it is a good idea to waste a starter when we have one of the best closers in the country. They are comfortable with the roles they have..
This post was edited on 5/30/09 at 10:03 pm
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:02 pm to Fgiord
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But the season wasn't on the line tonight. Had we lost tonight then we would have had Colemen to pitch with the season on the line tomorrow.
Dude you need to stop posting in this thread. You make yourself look dumber and dumber with each post.
Now that was a dumb post. Everyone in Baton Rouge has learned from Skip that the winner's bracket final game (the marble game) is the most important. Win the game, and you only have to win 1 more. Lose the game, and you have to win 3 more games. LSU would have had to have beaten Baylor twice without Ranaudo, Coleman, or Ross if they had lost (I'm sure Coleman would have thrown against Minnesota).
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:02 pm to Choupique19
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:04 pm to Brageous
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So we bring in coleman today, he gets it done possibly. Does he start tomorrow? If he does, he wont go as long. If not, who starts?
So the UGA experiment when Coleman threw 30 something pitches on Friday and then 120 on Sunday was for nothing? Coleman could have started tomorrow after pitching one inning today and not been any worse for it. This happens alot in Omaha. However, Maineri obviously felt Ott was all we needed, and he was right.
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:05 pm to Choupique19
What exactly makes that a dumb post? What part of it is false?
Please explain
Please explain
This post was edited on 5/30/09 at 10:07 pm
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:07 pm to Choupique19
That is why Mainieri is the coach.
You think Ott would be happy with this? He has been outstanding all year. WHY WASTE COLEMAN?
Jesus I hate the rant.
I am going back to the OT.
You think Ott would be happy with this? He has been outstanding all year. WHY WASTE COLEMAN?
Jesus I hate the rant.
I am going back to the OT.
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:10 pm to Fgiord
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But the season wasn't on the line tonight. Had we lost tonight then we would have had Colemen to pitch with the season on the line tomorrow.
The season was on the line tonight. True if we lost, the season wasn't over. But LSU basically wrapped up the regional tonight. No way Baylor or Minnesota beats this team twice in a row when in their best case scenario, they will have to be starting their 4th best pitcher.
If LSU loses tonight, then they have to beat Baylor twice without any of their regular weekend starters.
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:11 pm to Choupique19
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But to be precise, Ott is 3rd team All-American and Coleman is 1st team All-American.
awesome...
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:12 pm to Choupique19
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The season was on the line tonight. True if we lost, the season wasn't over.
Okay, now reread this. Tell me you're not dumb
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:13 pm to Brageous
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You think Ott would be happy with this?
Did Paul Maineri hurt these guys feelings:
DJ Lemahieu (move to 2B)
Ryan Shimpf (move to LF, 1B)
Sean Ochinko (sit vs. lefties)
Derek Helinihi (sit your senior yr)
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WHY WASTE COLEMAN?
To get to the championship round undefeated. And he would not have been wasted for the rest of the weekend.
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:13 pm to Fgiord
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Okay, now reread this. Tell me you're not dumb
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:15 pm to lsu xman
quote:While I agree that this is true, it really should not matter a bit. This is major college baseball, and if Coach Mainieri thinks sending Coleman to the mound is the best way to win, he shouldn't be worrying about whether it will hurt Ott's feelings. Ott's a big boy, I'm pretty sure he can handle someone else taking the mound if it's best for the team.
that would be a spit in the face to Ott to not bring him in
Of course, that would only matter if Mainieri thought Coleman was the best choice. Obviously he didn't, and the only evidence available suggests that he was right.
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:15 pm to Fgiord
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Okay, now reread this. Tell me you're not dumb
LSU has NEVER lost a regional or super regional when getting to the championship round undefeated (or winning game 1 of Super). LSU has lost many regionals when having to fight out of the loser's bracket.
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:17 pm to Choupique19
quote:Well, it helped win that series, if I recall.
the UGA experiment when Coleman threw 30 something pitches on Friday and then 120 on Sunday was for nothing?
quote:Friday-Sunday = 1 day of rest; tonight-tomorrow = 0 days of rest. Simply not a similar situation.
Coleman could have started tomorrow after pitching one inning today and not been any worse for it.
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:21 pm to Choupique19
quote:I disagree with your assertion that this supports putting Coleman in for the 9th rather than Ott.
Everyone in Baton Rouge has learned from Skip that the winner's bracket final game (the marble game) is the most important. Win the game, and you only have to win 1 more. Lose the game, and you have to win 3 more games.
However, this line of thinking did have me wondering why we didn't start Coleman tonight. It seemed to me before the game that starting Coleman rather than Ranaudo would have given us a better chance of winning tonight's game, and still left us with a solid, SOLID pitcher in Ranaudo for the closeout game tomorrow.
On the other hand, I guess there was no way to predict the lack of run production tonight, and with just 2 or 3 more runs this game Ranaudo handles this game with no worries.
And, as always, Mainieri knows best!
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:22 pm to King Joey
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King Joey
First guy to remotely back me at any point (hurting Ott's feelings), thanks.
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Friday-Sunday = 1 day of rest; tonight-tomorrow = 0 days of rest. Simply not a similar situation
But he didn't necessarily have to throw 30 pitches tonight, just one inning, hopefully about 12-15. Guys do throw relief for one inning and start the next day in Omaha all the time.
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:23 pm to Choupique19
What if he gives up a run and we go into more innings?
Posted on 5/30/09 at 10:26 pm to Brageous
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What if he gives up a run and we go into more innings?
Then we've got our best pitcher on the mound to try and get us into the championship round and keep us out of the losers bracket.
My whole argument is based off of the fact that I think Louis Coleman is our best pitcher and I wanted the ball in his hands.
Maineri made the winning call so we're all happy. Coleman will shove it against whoever we face tomorrow night and we'll get ready for the Supers.
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