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re: Les really let the program slide

Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:52 pm to
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:52 pm to
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Texas 2015 - #10
Texas 2016 - #11
Texas 2017 - #28

So Herman had no talent?

No excuses
holy shite you know you are killing your defense of orgeron losing to Troy and state with every Herman post Dumbass
Posted by Pensacolatgr
Member since Jun 2018
988 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:53 pm to
They sure are. In a year and a half, Ed O has won 71% of his conference games....I don't know what Les did overall, but it was around 57% his last 3 1/2 years.

Ed needs to kick that up to around 75% to 80%.
Posted by Pensacolatgr
Member since Jun 2018
988 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:56 pm to
So let me get this straight. I realize this thread is full of major negatigers and trolls. But, are you stating that Texas has not had those recruiting rankings? What did Herman go? 6-6 or 7-5?

Just curious?

Or, is it ok for others to have legitimate excuses?
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98000 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:57 pm to
Best thread in a long, LONG time. Absolutely hysterical.
Posted by Pensacolatgr
Member since Jun 2018
988 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:58 pm to
Nope. It is very unlikely a 2 loss team will sniff a west title. Lucky saban had just arrived at bama that year.
Posted by justice
Member since Feb 2006
55383 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:59 pm to
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Best thread in a long, LONG time. Absolutely hysterical.


I almost feel bad for him. almost
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29444 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 4:59 pm to
Herman took over a program coming off three straight losing seasons. Orgeron took over a program coming off 17 straight 8 win seasons.
Posted by Pensacolatgr
Member since Jun 2018
988 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:01 pm to
So none of y'all will answer the questions. 247 has it wrong? Texas didn't really have those classes I assume. Fk, what do I know, probably read the basketball rankings.

More likely, I assume Herman has excuses for the poor showing in 2017. After all, he is a process winner, so he gets a pass.
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40033 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:01 pm to
quote:

But, are you stating that Texas has not had those recruiting rankings?

Without googling it, im going to assume they did, sure.
quote:

What did Herman go? 6-6 or 7-5?

6-6, won their bowl to finish 7-6.
quote:

Or, is it ok for others to have legitimate excuses?

1. Those rankings are clearly lower than LSU’s the last 3 years by a good margin. What point are you proving here?
2. Texas hadn’t been to a bowl since 2014.
3. Herman wasn’t the worst head coach in his previous school’s history, so he gets this thing called the benefit of the doubt.
4. I never said Texas had a great or even good season last year. But he is young, energetic and clearly has them moving forward.
Posted by Pensacolatgr
Member since Jun 2018
988 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:03 pm to
But that hasn't been what we have been debating. We have been debating recruiting rankings and lsu came out #7, and that sparked all the no excuses remarks.

I guess the talent at Texas is measured differently than at lsu.
Posted by Pensacolatgr
Member since Jun 2018
988 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:06 pm to
#10 and #11 recruiting classes for 2015 and 2016 isn't good? Lol.

He has them moving forward, with at least top 15 talent, but they can only go 6-6 playing in the big 12. Meanwhile, O has lsu moving backwards? Lol
Posted by TigerLunatik
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jan 2005
98000 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:08 pm to
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So none of y'all will answer the questions. 247 has it wrong? Texas didn't really have those classes I assume. Fk, what do I know, probably read the basketball rankings. 

No one is answering the question because it's impossible to think you could spend 10 days saying giving excuses for Orgeron losing to a Sun Belt team while actually giving Texas recruiting rankings and having the nerve to type out "no excuses".

I guess I'm just nicer than everyone else and they wanted to see how far you would take it. I have some mercy I suppose.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:08 pm to
Didn't the rankings of rosters that 247 did last year where they ranked us having the 6th most talented team in the nation only rate players actually on the roster?

I see so much about attrition and injuries posted in these excuse monger posts that I often laugh bc regardless of attrition, all the folks who get paid to evaluate talent say we're a top 10 team. So why are pounding our chests over a 9-4 record again??
Posted by lsu2006
BR
Member since Feb 2004
40033 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:08 pm to
quote:

10 and #11 recruiting classes for 2015 and 2016 isn't good?

Never even remotely said that.
quote:

Meanwhile, O has lsu moving backwards?

Also never said that.

frick, man. You suck arse at this.
Posted by Pensacolatgr
Member since Jun 2018
988 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:13 pm to
Not asking for mercy. I got the answer I thought I would get. Herman had a 2015 #10 ranked class, and a 2016 #11 ranked class, going into the 2017 season...and went 6-6. I wanted to see if excuses would be made. I got my answer.

I knew exactly what I was asking. For the record, Texas has all kinds of problems, and it will take him time, if he can even do it. I'm not sold on him, but nothing against him. All I cared about is no excuses...the talent is there. Y'all's motto.
Posted by Pensacolatgr
Member since Jun 2018
988 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:15 pm to
Nah. I wanted to see y'all make excuses for Herman. After all, talent is there, no excuses.

Btw..since texas clearly had talent, what do you think held them back?
This post was edited on 7/7/18 at 5:17 pm
Posted by MOT
Member since Jul 2006
29444 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:16 pm to
Herman made immediate improvement in on field results compared to what Texas had been doing prior to his arrival. That is a fact. They are also poised to make another step forward this year. That is an opinion, but one shared by many.
Posted by Pensacolatgr
Member since Jun 2018
988 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:19 pm to
Hey dumbfrick...those rankings still count injured players...has zero to do with that. Seems you are confused.

I think I'll go beat my chest some more like all the others bragging about 9-4.
Posted by Stephen1979
Member since Oct 2016
5754 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:20 pm to
Herman is also well respected as a head coach.
Posted by Pensacolatgr
Member since Jun 2018
988 posts
Posted on 7/7/18 at 5:21 pm to
So he took a #10 and #11 recruiting class and made significant strides to 6-6 in the big 12....AND....he is certainly moving them forward.
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