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re: Les Miles is a GREAT Coach

Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:14 pm to
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:14 pm to
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What has happened to Peterson? He's a true freshman and is constantly on the field and is playing great.


Miles played a freshmen with a ton of talent and great things are happening. DO MORE OF IT.

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Hester was incredible last year and we'd love to have him this year. He's playing in the NFL right now.


CS and KW > Hester.

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But, Miles has still done better than Saban did here.


Tell you what, you take over LSU basketball this year and let me take over UNC, which team(coach) will do better?

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Why does every other team get to have a down year, but if LSU, with a freshman QB struggles, it's the end of the world and the program is in decline?


Because I just seen this same thing happen to Miami with Larry Coker.
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
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Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:15 pm to
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Yeah, gee, we might have actually won a NC last year. Oh wait...


2 losses and snuck into the game after losing our last regular season game. With CS, we beat UK.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21130 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:17 pm to
What? The staff has done a fine job. I agree that the DC's have not been overly impressive, but I tend to agree with Les that the problem has not necessarily been with the scheme or playcalling, but the execution of it. That seems to have been corrected, at least for now.

Considering the situation that we have been in, I think that the coaching has been right on target - not perfect, but who is?

Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
795 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:18 pm to
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but I tend to agree with Les that the problem has not necessarily been with the scheme or playcalling, but the execution of it.


Playcalling on both sides have been horrendous.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21130 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:22 pm to
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Tell you what, you take over LSU basketball this year and let me take over UNC, which team(coach) will do better?


I think that I will because your logic is seriously lacking. You are bordering on Rantard status with your arguments here.

Les Miles is not Larry Coker. Coker wouldn't have kicked RP off the team. That was his problem. He didn't have discipline, or provide vision or identity for his program. I don't know if we'll win another NC. It is a pretty hard thing to do. Ask Georgia. But, LSU is going to be right up there for the next several years. Sometimes the ball bounces your way, sometimes it doesn't. This is a difficult year, but again, take away any top team's starting QB and see where they are right now. Where do you think Georgia would be without Stafford? 4 losses? 5?
Posted by tmart2912
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2007
580 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:24 pm to
I think that if we would have kept RP it would have resulted in more team controversy. I think other players on the team would have felt like they could do anything and not receive any consequences. This could have been very bad for the team overall.
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
795 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:25 pm to
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I think that I will because your logic is seriously lacking. You are bordering on Rantard status with your arguments here.

Les Miles is not Larry Coker. Coker wouldn't have kicked RP off the team. That was his problem. He didn't have discipline, or provide vision or identity for his program.


I can not coach the team and my record will be better than yours with UNC vs LSU next season.

Miles didnt kick RP off the team until after the season and after he was pretty much forced too. That is not discipline.

Bordering rantard while explaining how Miles took over a program that was at the top, while Saban took over a program that was no where the top? Seems like this was the best way to explain it to an LSU fan.
This post was edited on 11/9/08 at 11:28 pm
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21130 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:29 pm to
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Miles didnt kick RP off the team until after the season and after he was pretty much forced too. That is not discipline.


Dude, whatever. It is clear that Miles won't get credit from you for anything positive. You're criticizing playing Hester and him kicking off RP too late. Look at Garcia for S. Carolina. He was in far more trouble than RP and he's still on the team even after being suspended 3 times.

I am sorry that you have to put up with such a pathetic coach. I think he's doing a great job and am willing to have a little patience after winning the NC last year and starting a freshman QB this year.

Sorry about the Rantard comment, by the way. It was uncalled for. I'm just a bit flabbergasted at this point about the criticism of Coach Miles. No, he's not perfect, but he's doing a fine job considering the situation. It isn't like we've always won National Championships or had 10 win seasons. Sure, Saban built it, but Miles has run it quite nicely. I'll give him the same chance I gave Saban in his 5th year when we played poorly. Unfortunately, he left after that.
This post was edited on 11/9/08 at 11:33 pm
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
795 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:32 pm to
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Dude, whatever. It is clear that Miles won't get credit from you for anything positive. You're criticizing playing Hester and him kicking off RP too late. Look at Garcia for S. Carolina. He was in far more trouble than RP and he's still on the team even after being suspended 3 times.

I am sorry that you have to put up with such a pathetic coach. I think he's doing a great job and am willing to have a little patience after winning the NC last year and starting a freshman QB this yea


Nobody here knows what all has happened to Garcia. I dont either but so I cant comment on it.

You are putting words in my mouth. I never said pathetic. He is doing a good job, nothing an above average coach couldnt have done IMO.
Posted by AlaTiger
America
Member since Aug 2006
21130 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:33 pm to
Sorry about the Rantard comment, by the way. It was uncalled for. I'm just a bit flabbergasted at this point about the criticism of Coach Miles. No, he's not perfect, but he's doing a fine job considering the situation. It isn't like we've always won National Championships or had 10 win seasons. Sure, Saban built it, but Miles has run it quite nicely. I'll give him the same chance I gave Saban in his 5th year when we played poorly. Unfortunately, he left after that.
Posted by Cornholio
LaPlace
Member since Nov 2007
8212 posts
Posted on 11/9/08 at 11:54 pm to
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I never said pathetic. He is doing a good job, nothing an above average coach couldnt have done IMO.


Every team in the country can't have a great coach. Who is a great coach to you? I'm wondering. Bob Stoops for example, what do you think of him?
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
795 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 12:00 am to
Stoops is a great coach. I will take him over Miles anyday and yes I know he lost 4 games in his 7th season. No way that Miles record at LSU will be better than his at OU after 10 year, considering Miles is here that long, which I dont think will happen. .822% winning percentage is unreal considering how much harder recruiting is there compared to here.
Posted by arwicklu
Houston, TX
Member since Jan 2008
7627 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 12:02 am to
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Stoops is a great coach. I will take him over Miles anyday and yes I know he lost 4 games in his 7th season. No way that Miles record at LSU will be better than his at OU after 10 year, considering Miles is here that long, which I dont think will happen. .822% winning percentage is unreal considering how much harder recruiting is there compared to here.


They've had some letdowns in huge games but I will say that when the majority of your talent is being pulled from another state, then it is pretty impressive what he's able to bring in.
Posted by Cornholio
LaPlace
Member since Nov 2007
8212 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 12:02 am to
Yes, but the Big 12 was kinda week in years past. OU beat Texas, and thats all they had to do. OU has been very unimpressive their last 4 bowl games.
Posted by dss
death valley
Member since Nov 2005
1442 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 12:03 am to
just look @ another option...the one that LM & GC is in luv w/ is not wkingout...just lets see a different element to the off. scheme thats all...his performance as a coach (decisions made @ qb & Dc)this yr has not been great i dont think he needs to win every gm..but put the team in the best possible position to do so...those decision have not been excuted very well!
Posted by Cornholio
LaPlace
Member since Nov 2007
8212 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 12:07 am to
I agree that Stoops is a good coach. But to think he would have done better at LSU than Miles has the past 3 years is probably crazy. It is super tough to win the NC. Miles has won 1. All the great teams Spurrier had at Florida and he only won 1. Bobby Bowden had some great FSU teams in the 90's in a terrible conference, they didn't win it every year. I'm just wondering what Miles has to do to be considered an elite coach. Win another NC? I dunno.
Posted by Tigahbait25
Member since Oct 2008
795 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 12:10 am to
I think Stoops would have at least one and Saban would have at least 2 if he stayed.
Posted by siliconvalleytiger
Bay Area, CA
Member since Apr 2004
31160 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 12:22 am to
He stood there yesterday and gave Nick Saban and his #1 team everything they could handle despite not having a reliable QB. I can't imagine how we stayed in that game and took it to OT but I credit the coaching.

Les Miles proved a lot yesterday. Even in loss, I felt there were many positives.
Posted by Fighting Tigers
Member since Aug 2008
2167 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 2:43 am to
Tigahbait25, who do you want our coach to be?
Posted by Fighting Tigers
Member since Aug 2008
2167 posts
Posted on 11/10/08 at 4:17 am to
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Tigahbait25: "Stoops is a great coach. I will take him over Miles anyday ... [Stoops] is unreal considering how much harder recruiting is there [at OU] compared to here [at LSU]."


This year Stoops is doing better than Miles, sure. But look at the last three years...

2007 Stoops: lost to a 6-7 Colorado team, got blown out 28-42 by #11 West Virginia, lost to a Texas Tech team that finished at #22 in the final poll. Wins over teams that finished in the Top 25: #4 Missouri, #10 Texas.

2007 Miles: lost to an 8-5 Kentucky team, lost to a 8-5 Arkansas team. Wins over teams that finished in the Top 25: #5 Ohio State, #9 Virginia Tech, #12 Tennesee, #13 Florida, #15 Auburn.

2006 Stoops: lost to a 7-6 Oregon team, lost to a WAC team (Boise State), lost 10-28 to a Texas team that finished at #13 in the final poll. Wins over teams that finished in the Top 25: NONE.

2006 Miles: lost to an Auburn team that finished #9 in the final poll, lost to a Florida team that was the National Champions. Wins over teams that finished in the Top 25: #25 Tennessee, #17 Notre Dame, #15 Arkansas.

2005 Stoops: lost to a Mountain West team (TCU), lost to a Texas Tech team that finished at #20 in the final poll, got blown out 24-41 by a UCLA team that finished at #16 in the final poll, got blown out 12-45 by a Texas team that was the National Champions. Wins over teams that finished in the Top 25: #24 Nebraska (8-4).

2005 Miles: lost to a 5-6 Tennessee team, lost to a Georgia team that finished #10 in the final poll. Wins over teams that finished in the Top 25: #8 Alabama, #12 Florida, #14 Auburn, #17 Miami.

And you are crazy if you think recruiting is harder at Oklahoma than it is at LSU. They have won seven National Championships. They are #2 all-time in weekly AP Top 25 poll appearances, #2 all-time in weekly AP Top 10 appearances, #1 all-time in weekly AP Top 5 appearances, #2 all-time in weekly appearances at the AP No. 1 spot, #2 all-time in finishes in the AP final Top 25, #2 all-time in finishes in the AP final Top 10, #1 all-time in finishes in the AP final Top 5, and #2 all-time in AP National Championships with seven (behind only Notre Dame, who has eight).

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This post was edited on 11/10/08 at 4:21 am
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