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re: Les Miles being treated unfairly?
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:30 pm to bmy
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:30 pm to bmy
coker wasnt "washed up" though
he was only a head coach for 5 years before getting fired...he ran out of butch davis' players and was exposed as the shite coach he is
any damn monkey would have won the NC with 2001 miami, only the best CFB team in history. just like any monkey would have won the NC with lsu in 2007, hell les almost fricked that up
he was only a head coach for 5 years before getting fired...he ran out of butch davis' players and was exposed as the shite coach he is
any damn monkey would have won the NC with 2001 miami, only the best CFB team in history. just like any monkey would have won the NC with lsu in 2007, hell les almost fricked that up
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 2:32 pm
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Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:31 pm to bmy
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All coaches become washed up eventually. Look at Spurrier.. the game has passed him by. Fired or not, it doesn't change the fact that he won it all.
And some coaches just get lucky as hell. See:
Dan Devine
Lavell Edwards
Bill McCartney
Bobby Ross
Johnny Majors
Danny Ford
Larry Coker
Duffy Daugherty
Murray Warmath
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 2:35 pm
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:32 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Jamarcus Russell and Matt Fynn are 2 they developed.
Jimbo Fisher
Correct!!!!
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:33 pm to secfan123
So a shitty and lucky coach can win a national championship. Lose five 1st round draft picks. Go undefeated the following season and play for but lose in the national championship game.
Gotcha
I'm out
Miles may be washed up now.. we'll find out this season probably. But there's nobody in the world that can produce a convincing argument that between 2005-2007 he wasn't elite. To much weighs in his favor.
Gotcha
I'm out
Miles may be washed up now.. we'll find out this season probably. But there's nobody in the world that can produce a convincing argument that between 2005-2007 he wasn't elite. To much weighs in his favor.This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:35 pm to Bernie Moore
quote:
Prove it! You keep avoiding how you know the coaching is average?
Randall
LINK
quote:
n 2004, he would start the majority of LSU's games, but split time with redshirt freshman JaMarcus Russell.
If you cant see that the LSU coaching the past two seasons was average, and I am being generous you have little knowledge of football.
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 2:38 pm
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:36 pm to bmy
quote:
So a shitty and lucky coach can win a national championship. Lose five 1st round draft picks. Go undefeated the following season and lose in the national championship game.
Gotcha
If he was a better coach don't you think he would have kept it going genius? Or did the game pass him by in a mere 3 years ?
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:38 pm to bmy
quote:
So a shitty and lucky coach can win a national championship. Lose five 1st round draft picks. Go undefeated the following season and play for but lose in the national championship game.
you realize miami had 10 more first rounders on the 2002 team...so obviously coker still had plenty of talent to not win with
quote:
But there's nobody in the world that can produce a convincing argument that between 2005-2007 he wasn't elite.
its 2010
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 2:39 pm
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:40 pm to secfan123
quote:
If he was a better coach don't you think he would have kept it going genius? Or did the game pass him by in a mere 3 years ?
Success changes people. Besides, Coker had 11 wins in 2003, won the big east, and won the Orange bowl. In 2004, his team finished #11 in the country.
After that.. well.. we all know what happened. Doesn't change the incredible amount of success he had.
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 2:41 pm
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:41 pm to bmy
quote:
But there's nobody in the world that can produce a convincing argument that between 2005-2007 he wasn't elite. To much weighs in his favor.
Obviously Miles isn't the same coach, or has the same players he did three years ago.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:41 pm to DBG
quote:
its 2010
astute observation sherlock
read more.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:42 pm to bmy
quote:
Success changes people. Besides, Coker had 11 wins in 2003, won the big east, and won the Orange bowl.
year 1: 13-0
year 2: 12-1
year 3: 11-2
year 4: 9-3
Thats three good years (kinda like miles!)
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:42 pm to RogerTheShrubber
quote:
Obviously Miles isn't the same coach, or has the same players he did three years ago.
He may or may not be washed up. One huge letdown of a season isn't enough to determine that.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:42 pm to bmy
your point about him being elite 3-5 years ago is completely worthless
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:44 pm to DBG
quote:
your point about him being elite 3-5 years ago is completely worthless
he was elite in 2007, yet, you find people who act like he's been awful during his entire stay at LSU. rantards and negatigers mainly.. but they do make up the majority of this forum.
the point is.. he was undeniably elite. give the man a chance to redeem himself. if he fricks it up again this year, then bring the hate and the acid.
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 2:45 pm
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:46 pm to bmy
quote:
He may or may not be washed up. One huge letdown of a season isn't enough to determine that.
Two seasons of crappy play is enough to worry about a third occurring.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:47 pm to bmy
quote:
he was elite in 2007, yet, you find people who act like he's been awful during his entire stay at LSU
No he inerited an elite program which is no longer elite.
quote:
the point is.. he was undeniably elite.
Not really. He showed no improvement from year 1 to year 3 (lost 2 gams every year)
quote:
give the man a chance to redeem himself. if he fricks it up again this year, then bring the hate and the acid.
By the time he's done "fricking up" LSU will be well behind Bama and Florida.
This post was edited on 7/13/10 at 2:50 pm
Posted on 7/13/10 at 2:54 pm to dukke v
quote:
Jamarcus Russell and Matt Fynn are 2 they developed.
Jimbo Fisher
Correct!!!!
Yet these people are still arguing.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 3:35 pm to bmy
(no message)
Posted on 7/13/10 at 3:43 pm to jlsutiger
quote:No, that was started by the Alabama media/fans to try and get us to undermine our own program and it is beginning to work. The alabama sports media started with the "miles is a moron" crap when he was winning in 2005-2007 to try and get Saban back into our recruiting grounds and we have played right into their hands with the constant program bashing that is going on.
uhh, the REST of the nation thinks Les Miles is a national joke. Many LSU fans are finally coming around and realizing what a clown this guy is.
Posted on 7/13/10 at 3:45 pm to bmy
quote:
he was elite in 2007, yet, you find people who act like he's been awful during his entire stay at LSU. rantards and negatigers mainly.. but they do make up the majority of this forum.
In my opinion, Miles does not have an elite coaching trait other than pulling in talent that could be argued was going to be at the flagship university of Louisiana anyway due to the success of the program in recent years.
As I said in an earlier post, his run in 07 was mainly due to a ton of breaks and not a masterful job of execution and tactics.
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