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re: Les is More

Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:33 pm to
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:33 pm to
quote:

who is ultimtely resonsible for said schemes ???
just saying


i never said otherwise, he addressed the problem

you on the other hand...
Posted by tubucoco
las vegas, nevada
Member since Oct 2007
32994 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:34 pm to
Saban argument is getting old, give it a frickin rest, you can't compare the 2, Saban took over a much different program than Miles, end of story.
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
3494 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:35 pm to
quote:

Saban argument is getting old, give it a frickin rest, you can't compare the 2, Saban took over a much different program than Miles, end of story.


Very true
Posted by geauxdjback9
what the fellas be yellin
Member since Jul 2006
1429 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 8:36 pm to
I think you replied to the wrong guy , you are preaching to the choir . I am not a Les Miles fan ,never have been . Hopefully, this year he will make me one . I doubt it though .
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 9:09 pm to
Why didn't you add Larry Coker's name and record to your list.
Like Miles, Coker took a program that was established by someone else and had a great five years.

If you are trying to compare Les and Nick use LSU and Oklahoma State.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 9:21 pm to
quote:

If you are trying to compare Les and Nick use LSU and Oklahoma State.


yea, OSU has the same resources and recruiting grounds as LSU. You never disappoint for a Saban dicksucking though
Posted by Tiger_n_ATL
Atlanta
Member since Jul 2005
33141 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 9:22 pm to
quote:

For example, be honest now... we throw long against AU with about 10 seconds left on the clock. Byrd makes the catch, place goes wild. But, let's say he doesn't make the catch, all of sudden, there is no time left on the clock for a sure fg.
That was Flynn's fault, not Miles. Flynn took way too much time.
Posted by TigerBait1127
Houston
Member since Jun 2005
47336 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 9:37 pm to
quote:

For example, be honest now... we throw long against AU with about 10 seconds left on the clock. Byrd makes the catch, place goes wild. But, let's say he doesn't make the catch, all of sudden, there is no time left on the clock for a sure fg.


except there should have been time on the clock at the end of that play
Posted by Tigerloo
Member since Sep 2007
397 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 11:37 pm to
um...there was time on the clock after that play.
Posted by mlttiger
Member since Feb 2009
3974 posts
Posted on 6/4/09 at 11:44 pm to
Anybody else getting tired of the daily coach ranking threads?
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 6/5/09 at 5:01 am to
quote:

Why didn't you add Larry Coker's name and record to your list.
Like Miles, Coker took a program that was established by someone else and had a great five years.

Larry Coker took over for Butch Davis. Davis went 50-21 - 71.8 & a losing season in his 3rd year. No National Championship. Coker went 60-15 80%, no losing season & Won a National Championship. Was fired for the FIU fight & other off-field incidents, not his coaching skills.
quote:

If you are trying to compare Les and Nick use LSU and Oklahoma State.

Why? When did Saban coach at Okie State? Why would it matter anyway? Miles has a better winning percentage at LSU. Fact.
Posted by roygu
Member since Jan 2004
11718 posts
Posted on 6/5/09 at 6:59 am to
quote:

You never disappoint for a Saban dicksucking though



I guess you have tried them both and prefer the taste of Miles? Les is more?
Posted by Sammich
Member since Apr 2004
9375 posts
Posted on 6/5/09 at 7:00 am to
quote]who is ultimately resonsible for said schemes ???
just saying[/quote]

Who was ultimately resposible for UAB & Iowa? Or any of the 16 losses Saban cost LSU?


quote:

I hope you are right BUT Nick had nothing to do with the boneheaded playcalls

Were you just not around LSU during 2000, 2002 & 2004? That "Defense" he called against Matt Jones at Arky was phenomenal huh? Jones completed 4 whole passes in the 2002 game & LSU loses the game...on a pass.

632 yards given up by Saban to Florida in 2001? That was one of Saban's "Good" LSU teams. Even Lou Tepper didn't give that amount of yardage in 1 game in his time at LSU. 500+ through the air & 100+ on the ground. Yeah buddy..

just sayin'
Posted by GA Tiger
Woodstock
Member since Aug 2005
3494 posts
Posted on 6/5/09 at 7:03 am to
[quote]That was Flynn's fault, not Miles. Flynn took way too much time.[/quote

You may be right but how do you know for sure?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/5/09 at 7:34 am to
quote:

What does Les have to do for some of you morons to except him?

this looks like something les would type
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/5/09 at 7:38 am to
quote:

Do we beat Florida in 2007 down by 10 with Saban?

maybe not

quote:

Sorry we aren't going for it on 4th down 5x.

at the end of the game? you bet we go for all of those 4th downs except possibly the one where we scored the TD
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/5/09 at 7:41 am to
quote:

but it was his fault we lacked senior leadership due to the 2005 signing class

those years happen. it's not like miles refuses to go over the projected limits. we over-recruited the 85 limit this year

the fact that the 2005 class, as a whole, sucked, had a lot to do with it. saban and miles played parts in that

also, miles mishandling QB recruiting and the RP situation left us with a black holle

but most of all, miles' hiring of maleveto was mind-numbingly bad. inexcusable and just all around horrible
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/5/09 at 7:44 am to
quote:

Funny the core of the NC team was made up of Dinardo players

i think there were like 3-4 dinardo players on that team

mauck, clayton, whitworth, spears, hill, laron, webster, daniels, wilkerson, vincent, etc were all saban's players (may have to check on c-webb). and i'm not even including lavalais, who i think saban got into school finally

quote:

It doesn't matter if you win by 1 point or 50, the W is still a W.

in individual games? yes

but in the big picture, big wins matter. first, we are judge subjectively, and big wins matter (as they should). second, if we play for close games every week, we will lose games we shouldn't (UK, Arky in 2007) more often than we should
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/5/09 at 7:46 am to
quote:

yea, OSU has the same resources and recruiting grounds as LSU.

mike gundy had a better year last year than miles ever had at OSU, if memory serves

so we should we hire gundy?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
464968 posts
Posted on 6/5/09 at 7:48 am to
quote:

except there should have been time on the clock at the end of that play

it's 50-50 at best whether there would be time or not. i think there's a good shot the refs rule the game over unless the timekeeper could watch the play in slow motion. i've never seen a ref put time back on the clock in that situation

if byrd drops that pass, then it's one of those situations where we lose and the complain about it for 10 years while posting the pictures of time left as the ball squirts out talking about how we got robbed by AU
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