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re: Les is More
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:11 pm to tubucoco
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:11 pm to tubucoco
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anwer one question, if LSU had used Saban/Muschamp schemes in those 2 losses in 2007, would they have lost those games?
if Pelini coached against Ole Miss 2001, Arkansas 2002/2004, Iowa 2004, UAB 2000 would we have lost those games?
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Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:11 pm to TigerBait1127
i'm off to the baseball game, continue to talk out of ur arse though
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:13 pm to tubucoco
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anwer one question, if LSU had used Saban/Muschamp schemes in those 2 losses in 2007, would they have lost those games?
Maybe, maybe not. It's irrelevant. You want to deal with hypotheticals to support your argument. We post facts of things that actually occurred.
By the way, the original post that I made in this thread was not to comment on the entire Saban regime, but to at least suggest that our 2006 defense was only allowed 10 more points than our 2003 defense, which was a great defense.
That's when you flipped out.
This post was edited on 6/5/09 at 1:17 pm
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:14 pm to TigerBait1127
I know I give up, y'all win, that's not answerin my question, I didn't expect it from Bo's corner.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:16 pm to Rocket
Here's some stats:
Les Miles has been a head coach for 8 years. In those 8 years his defenses have given up 300+ points in a season 4 times. But his offenses have scored 400+ points 5 times.
Nick Saban has been a head coach for 13 years. His defenses have given up 300+ points only 3 times and only 1 time in his last 10 seasons (LSU 2001). But his offenses have scored 400+ points only 3 times.
Bo Pelini has been a head coach for one full season. His defense gave up 371 points and gave up 50+ points 2 times, but his offense scored 460.
Conclusions: Saban is good at defense and Bo Pelini may have potential as an offensive coordinator.
Les Miles has been a head coach for 8 years. In those 8 years his defenses have given up 300+ points in a season 4 times. But his offenses have scored 400+ points 5 times.
Nick Saban has been a head coach for 13 years. His defenses have given up 300+ points only 3 times and only 1 time in his last 10 seasons (LSU 2001). But his offenses have scored 400+ points only 3 times.
Bo Pelini has been a head coach for one full season. His defense gave up 371 points and gave up 50+ points 2 times, but his offense scored 460.
Conclusions: Saban is good at defense and Bo Pelini may have potential as an offensive coordinator.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:16 pm to Rocket
I didn't flip out dude, you said someone was hittin the crack pipe because they didn't agree with you and I called you a dumb SOB for sayin that crap, and your still dumb for sayin that.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:17 pm to Sammich
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Very good? Clemson went 7-6 & fired thier coach.
You just made my point. Bama doesn't get credit for beating the #9 ranked team in the country.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:18 pm to drizztiger
goodluck to you man, they like stats, I'm not a stat guy, but I know a better defense when I see one.
This post was edited on 6/5/09 at 1:19 pm
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:19 pm to GA Tiger
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we throw long against AU with about 10 seconds left on the clock. Byrd makes the catch, place goes wild. But, let's say he doesn't make the catch, all of sudden, there is no time left on the clock for a sure fg.
The clock ran for three more seconds AFTER he caught it, and there was still time on the clock after that. And there were a hell of a lot more than ten seconds left when we put in that play. Flynn took a ridiculously long time to get that play off, or it would not have been anywhere close to running out.
So, basically, everything that could possibly go wrong time-wise went wrong and even with all that we still had time to try a FG if the pass fell incomplete.
And, keep in mind that we were at about the 23 yard line, so it would have been about a 40 yard FG, hardly a sure thing.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:20 pm to tubucoco
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didn't flip out dude, you said someone was hittin the crack pipe because they didn't agree with you and I called you a dumb SOB for sayin that crap, and your still dumb for sayin that.
No, the facts support my arguments. And you have failed to refute any of them. That's why you're dumb. You even had the nerve to try to criticize me for calling you a name, although you were the first one to do that.
The 2006 is one of the best defenses we've ever had. You are just too enamored with Saban and Muschamp to realize that.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:22 pm to tubucoco
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they like stats, I'm not a stat guy
Apparently so.
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but I know a better defense when I see one.
Apparently not. We gave up 205 points in 2004.
Guess how many we gave up in 2005 and 2006? I'll tell you: 185 and 164, respectively.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:23 pm to Rocket
Pelini's 2006 defense was better than 2003 defense, you are dumb. so what happened smart guy? why LSU didn't win a NC in 05 and 06, oh right, Jamarcus, that will be your excuse.
This post was edited on 6/5/09 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:28 pm to tubucoco
Saban historically brings better defense to the table.
IMO Pelini's defense started to show weakness his last season at LSU and it continued into LSU's co-d experiment and Nebraska's defense. We'll see how well his defenses do in the future.
I know between his last season at LSU, Malveto at LSU and Pelini at Nebraska, 50+ points have been given up FIVE times. A Saban defense hasn't given up 50+ points since Michgan State in 1999.
IMO Pelini's defense started to show weakness his last season at LSU and it continued into LSU's co-d experiment and Nebraska's defense. We'll see how well his defenses do in the future.
I know between his last season at LSU, Malveto at LSU and Pelini at Nebraska, 50+ points have been given up FIVE times. A Saban defense hasn't given up 50+ points since Michgan State in 1999.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:28 pm to LuckyLee
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You just made my point. Bama doesn't get credit for beating the #9 ranked team in the country.
Nope. Just laughing at you for calling them "Very good".
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:30 pm to Sammich
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Nope. Just laughing at you for calling them "Very good".
You read at a 4th grade level, maybe.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:32 pm to Rocket
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Apparently not. We gave up 205 points in 2004.
Guess how many we gave up in 2005 and 2006? I'll tell you: 185 and 164, respectively.
You can help your point further by noting we played 12 games in 2004 and we played 13 games in both 2005 and 2006.
I'm certainly a Saban defense > Pelini defense person, but Pelini had solid d in 2005 and 2006.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:34 pm to drizztiger
Here's some stats:
Les Miles: 70-31 record for a winning percentage of 68% according to CFB datawarehouse.
Nick Saban: 111-50 with a 68% winning percentage according to CFB datewarehouse.
Bo Pelini: 10-4 record as head coach and interim head coach for a 71% winning percentage.
Our 2001 defense did not give up 300+ points.
Les Miles: 70-31 record for a winning percentage of 68% according to CFB datawarehouse.
Nick Saban: 111-50 with a 68% winning percentage according to CFB datewarehouse.
Bo Pelini: 10-4 record as head coach and interim head coach for a 71% winning percentage.
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only 1 time in his last 10 seasons (LSU 2001).
Our 2001 defense did not give up 300+ points.
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:36 pm to Rocket
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Our 2001 defense did not give up 300+ points.
PF 418 PA 302
Posted on 6/5/09 at 1:36 pm to tubucoco
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Pelini's 2006 defense was better than 2003 defense, you are dumb
What? Are you trying to ask me a question?
I said it was "one" of the best defenses we've ever had.
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why LSU didn't win a NC in 05 and 06, oh right
Why didn't we win it in 2004 and 2002?
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