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re: Lee v. Jefferson... ultimate vote
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:54 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:54 pm to Antonio Moss
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Okay, so now people that support an individual player at a position aren't bad fans?
At the expense of the other? All. If you have to put one down to make your favorite look better your motives deserve to be questioned. Supporting a player is a totally different issue. You don't have to trash one to support the other.
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Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:54 pm to Antonio Moss
Both will start 6 a piece. Lee will start the final 6.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:55 pm to Antonio Moss
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Antonio Moss
i was 100% for JL starting over JJ before reading some of the numbers you have posted over the last couple weeks fwiw.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:56 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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At the expense of the other?
Well, technically I don't think its possible to support one player and not do it at the expense of the other. You can say you support both until your blue in the face, but at the end of the day, you have to support one more than the other.
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If you have to put one down to make your favorite look better your motives deserve to be questioned. Supporting a player is a totally different issue. You don't have to trash one to support the other
And who was "trashing" other players?
This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 4:57 pm
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:57 pm to Antonio Moss
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Okay, so now people that support an individual player at a position aren't bad fans?
In the context of wishing a loss on the team just so the player they support gets a shot, then hell yes that's a bad fan. I'm going to "pull for" whomever the coaches decide to put out there. Ask me today, and I would put Lee out there. I'll happily be incorrect if Jefferson has an amazing season. Just an opinion and nobody that thinks this should be labeled a bad fan.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 4:59 pm to Boh
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In the context of wishing a loss on the team just so the player they support gets a shot, then hell yes that's a bad fan. I'm going to "pull for" whomever the coaches decide to put out there. Ask me today, and I would put Lee out there. I'll happily be incorrect if Jefferson has an amazing season. Just an opinion and nobody that thinks this should be labeled a bad fan.
You guys are too funny.
Okay, so you and Roger decided to generally talk about supporting players/the team and how that reflects on one's "fanhood" and it had nothing to do with the conversation that you and I were having at the same time regarding Jefferson versus Lee?
Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:01 pm to Antonio Moss
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Well, technically I don't think its possible to support one player and not do it at the expense of the other.
Ludicrous. Absolutely.
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You can say you support both until your blue in the face, but at the end of the day, you have to support one more than the other.
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bullshite. Don't care who plays at any position, since I am not on the coaching staff and not able to evaluate. I don't pretend to know everything that goes on to contribute to a totally crappy offense. Just opinion.
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And who was "trashing" other players?
You simply are overlooking a helluva lot of posts.
What is interesting, I haven't accused a single person yet you jumped right in. Still haven't claimed you were guilty of said offense, but you are definitely offensive. You seem to be defensive for no reason, or simply because you are trying to rationalize.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:02 pm to Antonio Moss
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Okay, so you and Roger decided to generally talk about supporting players/the team and how that reflects on one's "fanhood" and it had nothing to do with the conversation that you and I were having at the same time regarding Jefferson versus Lee?
His post was about wishing one player performs poorly in order to get a different player a shot. We both believe this is a bad thing and not fan worthy (if I understood correctly).
I think you're overthinking this. Really all I'm saying is that while Jefferson is out there he gets my support... I want him to be a winner.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:03 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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but you are definitely offensive. You seem to be defensive
If that's the case, he's my pick to play for the BCS c'ship in Jan.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:04 pm to Boh
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I think you're overthinking this.
He definitely is.
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Really all I'm saying is that while Jefferson is out there he gets my support... I want him to be a winner.
Agree.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:06 pm to PiscesTiger
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but you are definitely offensive. You seem to be defensive
If that's the case, he's my pick to play for the BCS c'ship in Jan.
Interestingly faux pas. didn't catch that.Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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Ludicrous. Absolutely.
How can you support a player starting without it being at the expense of the other? It may not be vicious or mean-spirited, but its still at their expense.
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You simply are overlooking a helluva lot of posts
I know a bunch of yahoos on here are trashing Lee as a bunch of yahoos are trashing Jefferson. But at the same time, many people who make valid points regarding the QB position getting attacked for "bashing" the other, when its anything but.
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What is interesting, I haven't accused a single person yet you jumped right in. Still haven't claimed you were guilty of said offense, but you are definitely offensive.
Do you defensive?
And the timing and address of your post leads one to easily assume that it was directed at me.
If it was, just say so. I'm not going to get upset. I may try to show you how you're wrong, but I won't lose sleep over it.
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You seem to be defensive for no reason, or simply because you are trying to rationalize.
Trying to rationalize. I'm actually laughing at the hilarity of all of it.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:12 pm to Antonio Moss
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How can you support a player starting without it being at the expense of the other? It may not be vicious or mean-spirited, but its still at their expense.
easy. I don't care who starts and who succeeds. Will let the season take care of that. I have no clue how each has developed since the offseason. Do you??
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I know a bunch of yahoos on here are trashing Lee as a bunch of yahoos are trashing Jefferson. But at the same time, many people who make valid points regarding the QB position getting attacked for "bashing" the other, when its anything but.
Agree. I am addressing people who bash.
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And the timing and address of your post leads one to easily assume that it was directed at me.
Paranoid and overreacting.
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If it was, just say so. I'm not going to get upset. I may try to show you how you're wrong, but I won't lose sleep over it.
It was a general statement aimed at people who put down one player to prop up another.
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Trying to rationalize. I'm actually laughing at the hilarity of all of it.
If I am not addressing you, I see no reason for you to be so defensive.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:14 pm to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 7/29/10 at 5:20 pm to byronlaw
Lee...Zach Lee that is.
ETA: NTSA
ETA: NTSA
This post was edited on 7/29/10 at 5:21 pm
Posted on 7/29/10 at 6:02 pm to The Future
"re: Lee v. Jefferson... ultimate vote"
I am so glad this is the "ultimate vote", so we can move on to other topics. I sure the coaching staff will use this poll for 60-70% of their decision making process.
I am so glad this is the "ultimate vote", so we can move on to other topics. I sure the coaching staff will use this poll for 60-70% of their decision making process.
Posted on 7/29/10 at 10:27 pm to byronlaw
Jefferson.
Posted on 7/30/10 at 1:23 am to byronlaw
Jefferson! I rewatched LSU vs. Alabama 2008 the other night and Lee threw 4 interceptions and 2 pick sixes.
Posted on 7/30/10 at 1:24 am to byronlaw
JJ
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