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re: Lee Theory - Did the Lee family ask for this?

Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:34 am to
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:34 am to
Yup. Its been a huge adjustment for me as well. Esp those days where you're fricking tired as can be, have to somehow stay up to study, then wake up at 5:30 am for practice
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:35 am to
Well, first of all, in the OP's "logical" theory, he stated Lee was struggling, so attack him, not me.
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:36 am to
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he OP's "logical" theory


which you support.

this isn't hard....
Posted by NHTIGER
Central New Hampshire
Member since Nov 2003
16188 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:37 am to
To the OP:

What you don't make unequivocally clear in your theory is whether or not JL himself had knowledge of this "arrangement" between his dad and Miles. And if so, whether he was okay with it.

That seems like a pretty big piece of the puzzle to have been omitted.
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:37 am to
What??? Have you read my comments in this thread? I think not. I attacked his bullshite theory from the start. Nice try though.
Posted by loopdog
Alexandria, La.
Member since Nov 2011
474 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:38 am to
I call bullshite !
Posted by krewerider
Member since Sep 2009
633 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:41 am to
quote:

Flame away...


not enough gasoline in world Dude...
Posted by therocketscientist
too far away from Tiger Stadium
Member since Mar 2007
5010 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:42 am to
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What you don't make unequivocally clear in your theory is whether or not JL himself had knowledge of this "arrangement" between his dad and Miles. And if so, whether he was okay with it.


You are correct. I do think that if such an agreement took place, which I am not saying it did, only that is it plausible, it would have been shared with Lee. His Father and Coach would have certainly let him in on it, thus Lee's high-road statements thereafter.
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:42 am to
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which you support.

Actually he's been against the theory. If only because it's hopelessly complicated and based on presumptions as I pointed out on page 2 (which 7th bowed to).

It is much simpler to presume that Les wasn't happy after the first Alabama game for some reason and decided to hand the reins back to Jefferson (since we know he's willing to take the passing drawback in exchange for Jefferson's scrambling ability). And that "Mad Hatter" Miles simply gambled that the option would eventually work/or that LSU's only chance to win was the option and he needed Jefferson to run it.

Now, which sounds more likely? Lot less unfounded presumptions in my theory than the OP's.
This post was edited on 1/14/12 at 10:44 am
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:52 am to
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Lee Theory - Did the Lee family ask for this?


rocketman theory....did the Tiger family ask for this?

I have two words for you....spy novels. I have two more words for you....start writing, and good luck wit' dat.

geaux Fleming, Clancy, le Carre and Ludlum!
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 10:52 am to
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lee was never head and shoulders better than jordanson.

jordanson

and lee proved he was better at being a QB this year.

JJ has a different skill set of being a runner, but that's about it.
This post was edited on 1/14/12 at 10:57 am
Posted by byubengalboy
Cypress, tx.
Member since Nov 2008
3719 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:02 am to
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and lee proved he was better at being a QB this year.

JJ has a different skill set of being a runner, but that's about it.


given time both could throw effectively....under pressure JJ had mobility and the feet to escape and create. JL did not prove to be a better qb and he sealed his own fate with his performance on Nov.5. in reality....JL, with that careless performance, forced the staff to make the personnel decisions that cut his playing time. it's really that simple....and I'm not at all surprised that you don't get it.

This post was edited on 1/15/12 at 7:15 pm
Posted by filmmaker45
Member since Mar 2008
14554 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:03 am to
Posted by 7thWardTiger
Richmond, Texas
Member since Nov 2009
24670 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:04 am to
quote:

given time both could throw effectively....under pressure JJ had mobility and the feet to escape and create. JL did not prove to be a better qb and he sealed his own fate with his performance on Nov.5. in reality....JL, with that careless performance, forced the staff to made the personell decisions that cut his playing time. it's really that simple....and I'm not surprise that you don't get it.
oh no, you must have an agenda.

Its amazing how many people have won't accept the facts that the coaching staff feels better with JJ at the helm.
Posted by 1984Tiger
North Carolina
Member since Apr 2006
7589 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:05 am to
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JL, with that careless performance, forced the staff to made the personell decisions that cut his playing time.

I don't think the staff was "forced" to make that decision ... Miles was waiting for the opportunity to give the reins back to JJ and 11/5 provided the justification he was looking for.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:05 am to
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under pressure JJ had mobility and the feet to escape and create.


71 sacks vs 20
Posted by bbrownso
Member since Mar 2008
8985 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:06 am to
quote:

under pressure JJ had mobility and the feet to escape and create.


I'll grant you that Jefferson has the speed to escape but he doesn't have the pocket presence to actually escape pressure. I've seen plenty of times when he needed to run where he ignored pressure and took a sack.

I'd rather someone with a quick release instead of someone that will sit back there and then hopefully escape.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:06 am to
quote:

given time both could throw effectively


not against georgia JJ couldn't. 25 yards
Posted by heartbreakTiger
grinding for my grinders
Member since Jan 2008
138974 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:08 am to
how the frick has this stupid bullshite gone on for four pages?
Posted by drfeelgood
Member since Jun 2007
3378 posts
Posted on 1/14/12 at 11:09 am to
Tl, dr
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