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re: Lee is fine for the title game

Posted on 12/14/11 at 4:11 pm to
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 4:11 pm to
I just wouldn't feel right if I didn't post in a JJ/JL thread.




Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8884 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 4:15 pm to
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You also said we won despite JJ when he started, until you realized JJ and our offense had a good 3 game stretch, so you changed your argument again to say these defenses were bad


Maybe you have been too damaged by watching three years of a really bad offense to realize it, but this offense was clearly more fluid and consisent during the first eight games of the season. It is really funny that people would argue that point.
Posted by LSUdm21
Member since Nov 2008
17486 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 4:20 pm to
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Maybe you have been too damaged by watching three years of a really bad offense to realize it, but this offense was clearly more fluid and consisent during the first eight games of the season. It is really funny that people would argue that point.


Anyone who says it wasn't in just lying to themselves. I was big supporter of JJ through the Shady's ordeal and I still think it's ridiculous that he was suspended at all but, minus the Bama game, the offense has looked like shite with JJ. Hell, against UGA JJ had no fricking clue that the 1st quarter ended. He turned around to look at the ref like "wtf?"
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 4:21 pm to
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Maybe you have been too damaged by watching three years of a really bad offense to realize it, but this offense was clearly more fluid and consisent during the first eight games of the season. It is really funny that people would argue that point.


Comparing LSU's offense throught Lee's first 7 games this year to that terrible offense last year.

Rushing offense-
2011 - 30th
2010 - 28th

Passing Offense
2011 - 99th
2010 - 107th

Total Offense
2011 - 79th
2010 - 86th

We're almost identical in rushing, passing, and total offense.
What this tells me is that a) we were getting points and/or good field position from D and ST and b.) we were getting more TD's than FG's this year


Lee has had at least one first half three and out against every team this season except UF, with 2 against Oregon, 2 against NW St., 3 against WV, 4 against Kentucky, and two against Tennesse.

People see what they want to see.....
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 4:31 pm to
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Lee has had at least one first half three and out against every team this season except UF, with 2 against Oregon, 2 against NW St., 3 against WV, 4 against Kentucky, and two against Tennesse.

People see what they want to see...


You're comparing 2-4 three and outs to a first half with ALL three and outs (or turnovers)?

What game has JJ not had a three and out in the first half? I seriously don't know, but Ole Miss wold be the only I could think of.
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
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Posted on 12/14/11 at 4:37 pm to
No I'm saying Lee wasn't as consistent as you remember him to be and JJ isn't as inconsistent as you make him out to be, outside of the UGA game. Miles prefers JJ for a reason but you will never accept that.
Posted by ellessuuuu
Member since Sep 2004
8884 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 4:48 pm to
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No I'm saying Lee wasn't as consistent as you remember him to be and JJ isn't as inconsistent as you make him out to be, outside of the UGA game. Miles prefers JJ for a reason but you will never accept that


That doesn't mean I have to agree with it. Saban played Booty for an entire season and I felt like Davey should have been the starter. Still think Davey was the better QB. I thought JJ gave us a better chance at the end of 08 and during 09 to win.

Here is my question, if JJ plays the first of the BCSNCG like he did against UGA, do you think JL should get a shot?
Posted by EarthwormJim
Member since Dec 2005
10063 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 4:55 pm to
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Here is my question, if JJ plays the first of the BCSNCG like he did against UGA, do you think JL should get a shot?


Maybe, it depends on the score, field position and our ability to run the ball.

My question is do you trust Lee in any situation after his last 2 passes against Bama?
Posted by tiger88
Member since Jan 2006
1041 posts
Posted on 12/14/11 at 5:02 pm to
agree
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