- My Forums
- Tiger Rant
- LSU Recruiting
- SEC Rant
- Saints Talk
- Pelicans Talk
- More Sports Board
- Coaching Changes
- Fantasy Sports
- Golf Board
- Soccer Board
- O-T Lounge
- Tech Board
- Home/Garden Board
- Outdoor Board
- Health/Fitness Board
- Movie/TV Board
- Book Board
- Music Board
- Political Talk
- Money Talk
- Fark Board
- Gaming Board
- Travel Board
- Food/Drink Board
- Ticket Exchange
- TD Help Board
Customize My Forums- View All Forums
- Show Left Links
- Topic Sort Options
- Trending Topics
- Recent Topics
- Active Topics
Started By
Message
re: LEE "bashers" PLEASE OPINE.......
Posted on 10/29/08 at 3:46 pm to sportsinfogeauxlsu
Posted on 10/29/08 at 3:46 pm to sportsinfogeauxlsu
quote:
Lee has thrown 28 points to the other team this year, so for all of the Lee avg. pts per game stats be sure to include the 28 pt deduction
So, does the D get a free pass in your opinion?
0
Posted on 10/29/08 at 3:52 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:
and this is your justification for him not being at fault here. please, come on dude. lee has play like shite the entire season so far. byrd and lafell has made him look good in most of those TD's.
So, in other words, the offensive team is doing its job, even with Lee's shaky performances. In other words, LSU's still gaining lots of yards with him in games and putting up lots of points. In other words, LSU still has the #2 offense in the SEC, despite having all of its games played against 5 of the top 7 defenses in the league. In other words, nothing having to do with the offense is to blame for LSU's woes this season, since LSU won the game at Auburn, and got run over by Georgia's offense, who could have scored as many points as they liked.
quote:
IMO, he is just as much the blame as Miles, the defense, and the Co-DC's.
And in my not-so-humble opinion, you are fricking blindlingly, miserably, unbelievably stupid.
Posted on 10/29/08 at 3:53 pm to Doc Fenton
DOC!!! +1 
This post was edited on 10/29/08 at 3:55 pm
Posted on 10/29/08 at 3:55 pm to munchman
quote:
Please don't say Jefferson cause he will be great but not ready now.
So he will be ready for his 5th year when Lee is gone?
If JJ will be great as you say, lets play him now. Lee will never be great.
Posted on 10/29/08 at 3:58 pm to Tigahbait25
quote:
Lee will never be great.
Let me introduce you to DOC. Read for yourself. He has it correct.
Posted on 10/29/08 at 3:59 pm to munchman
JL gives us the best option of winning. He has playing poorly at times but he also has shown some flashes of how good he can be. Consistency is what he is fighting to learn.
With that said, Miles felt that it was better to finally dismiss RP and now we are seeing the residual effect of that decision. I don't know what goes in inside the program in regards to the players so I would have think that Les made the right decision.
The defense is kinda hopeless in my opinion. They are being coached by 2 DC's that have no experience in that role. The secondary can't cover and the LB's are continually out of position. Our D-line oftentimes gets pushed around and whenever we blitz, opposing QB's always seem to know where we are coming from and simply get rid of it quick enough OR run the play to the opposite away from the pressure.
The offense is scoring but they are not moving the ball consistently enough. This season has been VERY rough on this team but this is what you pay a coach for, times like this.
Seems like every week we get nothing but lip service in regards to the issues with this team. Coaches and players continue to say the things that everyone wants to hear but then they come out and make the same mistakes. Miles appears to think that the defensive play-calling and schemes are right-on, the players need to execute. This worries me the most, I can't recall seeing so many busted coverage plays on a constant basis. I hope his "buddies" are as loyal to him as he to them when his arse is on the hot seat.
Hopefully JL improves with his decision making process and reads. The kid will end up being pretty good for us. Hey, what about Ponder at FL. St.? So our situation could be worst. I think the defense will not get better until we bring someone in to fix this train wreck created by the hiring of Miles' "buddies".
If Miles does not do the right thing before next season, I won't get my hopes up next year therefore it will come as no disappointment when we lose another 3 or 4 games. I will ALWAYS be an LSU fan but I will have no confidence in Miles' ability to maintain this program if he really thinks that the CO-DC experiment is working out.
With that said, Miles felt that it was better to finally dismiss RP and now we are seeing the residual effect of that decision. I don't know what goes in inside the program in regards to the players so I would have think that Les made the right decision.
The defense is kinda hopeless in my opinion. They are being coached by 2 DC's that have no experience in that role. The secondary can't cover and the LB's are continually out of position. Our D-line oftentimes gets pushed around and whenever we blitz, opposing QB's always seem to know where we are coming from and simply get rid of it quick enough OR run the play to the opposite away from the pressure.
The offense is scoring but they are not moving the ball consistently enough. This season has been VERY rough on this team but this is what you pay a coach for, times like this.
Seems like every week we get nothing but lip service in regards to the issues with this team. Coaches and players continue to say the things that everyone wants to hear but then they come out and make the same mistakes. Miles appears to think that the defensive play-calling and schemes are right-on, the players need to execute. This worries me the most, I can't recall seeing so many busted coverage plays on a constant basis. I hope his "buddies" are as loyal to him as he to them when his arse is on the hot seat.
Hopefully JL improves with his decision making process and reads. The kid will end up being pretty good for us. Hey, what about Ponder at FL. St.? So our situation could be worst. I think the defense will not get better until we bring someone in to fix this train wreck created by the hiring of Miles' "buddies".
If Miles does not do the right thing before next season, I won't get my hopes up next year therefore it will come as no disappointment when we lose another 3 or 4 games. I will ALWAYS be an LSU fan but I will have no confidence in Miles' ability to maintain this program if he really thinks that the CO-DC experiment is working out.
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:01 pm to munchman
the problem here is that these are two separate arguements. if you want to critique the D start a thread about the D if you want defend Lee then defend him without using another part of the team. the D has played very poorly there is no getting around that. but! while lee may be the best option we have he is certainly not a very good qb. i'd like to know how many times a player has run back 2 ints for tds in one game. lee's job is to do what he can to give this team the best opportunity to win. he is certainly not doing that
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:04 pm to ellis1975
ellis 1975 
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:06 pm to GEAUXT
quote:
the problem here is that these are two separate arguements. if you want to critique the D start a thread about the D if you want defend Lee then defend him without using another part of the team. the D has played very poorly there is no getting around that. but! while lee may be the best option we have he is certainly not a very good qb. i'd like to know how many times a player has run back 2 ints for tds in one game. lee's job is to do what he can to give this team the best opportunity to win. he is certainly not doing that
Geuxt I get your point, but nobody has said whether they would take 38pts and 500yds before last weeks kickoff. If you answer yes then the only conclusion about failure is the D. That's the overiding point.
This post was edited on 10/29/08 at 4:07 pm
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:10 pm to ellis1975
quote:
Miles felt that it was better to finally dismiss RP and now we are seeing the residual effect of that decision.
I thought he was forced to kick him off by failed drug test.
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:10 pm to munchman
well sure 38 pts sounds great...but not quite as good when you add in the little point of two pick 6's againt a top ten team. so you can look at it as a net of 24 pts which doesn't sound quite as nice
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:11 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:
Mark my words son. His draft stock has dropped significantly.
ooohh, Hammand plays the "son" card.
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:13 pm to ForeLSU
quote:
quote:
Mark my words son. His draft stock has dropped significantly.
ooohh, Hammand plays the "son" card.
At least he didn't play the "son of" care.
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:16 pm to GEAUXT
quote:
well sure 38 pts sounds great...but not quite as good when you add in the little point of two pick 6's againt a top ten team. so you can look at it as a net of 24 pts which doesn't sound quite as nice
I still think you validate my point. 24 net with the D we were supposed to have pre-season?
We should win on that merit alone.
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:33 pm to munchman
quote:
So, does the D get a free pass in your opinion?
no, i just want all of Lee's good stats to be netted against the bad.
i.e. if someone throws 10 TD but 10 pick 6's that should equal zero because in reality the team gains nothing
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:38 pm to sportsinfogeauxlsu
quote:
no, i just want all of Lee's good stats to be netted against the bad.
i.e. if someone throws 10 TD but 10 pick 6's that should equal zero because in reality the team gains nothing
Looking at Lee's stats compared to others in the SEC, they aren't to bad for a freshman who has played 5 of best 7 def. in the league. On the other hand go ahead and defend our defense with stats. Undefensible.
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:46 pm to munchman
how was i defending our D?
ill say it: They Suck!
ill say it: They Suck!
Posted on 10/29/08 at 4:58 pm to Hammond Tiger Fan
quote:
Nothing you can do this season, but let the rookie play
quote:
But I would give JJ a shot and give him some live game time experience just in case Lee doesn't show progress leading up to next season.
I agree with this. The only way we'll have an experienced QB is to let him play. Maybe JJ can do better. For now what else can we do? Tom Brady is hurt and I don't think he has any eligibility left, so we have to play somebody or run the single wing.
Posted on 10/29/08 at 5:01 pm to munchman
quote:
take 38pts and 500yds before last weeks kickoff
Yes please. And before every other game from here on out too. That's a pretty good stat line for any offense
Posted on 10/29/08 at 5:10 pm to MRTigerFan
The way I see it is Lee And Hatch are not improving. They are both FR QBS in a way. Having both QBS sub in and out the game is messing the flow of the O. Well JJ has the talent of both lee and Hatch so why not give him a try so he can learn like Stafford did last year. Theres know way either lee are hatch will bet out JJ next spring anway!!! So i say give him a SHOT!!!If he can't cut it pulling him!!!
This post was edited on 10/29/08 at 5:14 pm
Page 2 of 4
Popular
Back to top
Follow TigerDroppings for LSU Football News