re: Last year's LSU football team should have finished 10-1 with a playoff berth

You will never get Ricky to admit to this.... plus he says he is not defending Miles by posting facts about him... well his last 4 posts in this thread he is using zero facts... just defending Miles.... he can't make up his mind.....

There's 1 Winner- and then there's EVERYBODY ELSE, and it doesn't matter if you have 2 wins or 10 wins!!!!!! There's no 10 win trophy, that's just a talking point for losers!!!!!
VINCE LOMBORDI - There is a 2nd place bowl game, but it's a game for losers played by losers !!!!!

Yes and we now know that there are people on here as STUPID as Rick!!

Spare me the 1 winner BS!

If you can only be content with a NC, you must be one discontented negative drama queen!

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The Florida loss last year was the most disgusting thing I've ever seen. We fumbled at the 2, then Florida threw one over Donte for a 98-yd TD pass. A 10-point swing. If that doesn't happen, we win the game

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Yeah......but a lot of teams could say "if something didn't happen, we would have won."......

The problem is.....it did happen.....

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Forget the fact that from 2005-2015 LSU was the ONLY SEC team to average 10 wins a year, they don't mean shite.

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In Miles' last 3 full years (plus the beginning of 2016), Miles went 15-11 in the SEC, 10-10 against the SEC West.

I don't much care what Miles did 10 years ago or what his average wins are. For a program with lofty aspirations like LSU, that has top recruiting classes, and incredible facilities, resources, etc., you have to stay up near the top.

The fact is we drastically under-performed during Miles' last 3+ years.

And the "10-win" measuring stick can be misleading - it needs context. For example, if we beat cupcakes and weaker SEC teams, but get pounded by 3 other SEC teams, we finish 5-3 in SEC, and then win a shitty bowl game. That's 10-3, and it doesn't mean much (see 2015, for example, assuming a win against McNeese).

By contrast, if we lose 2 close SEC games and finish 6-2 in SEC, and then lose a tight NY6 bowl to a very good team, we're also 10-3, but that's a much better 10-3 that we can accept.

Context, Lonnie.

Also, a "10-win" season isn't what it used to be. It really meant something back when I was a kid - 11 game schedule, no conference championship games, and far, far fewer bowl games. You win 10 games back in the 80s - that was a big deal.

ATLTIGER6487- The best post that hits the mark, PERIOD!! SPOT ON!!!!! Early on His record was also padded by Saban and Jimbo recruits!! 12 Years no NC with his recruits, and also when we had the co-dummies as DC we went 8-5, and that was with good talent, he needed that great DC to cover up his short comings as a coach. I'm glad that era is over//// Great point about the 10 win seasons in the 80's and before, when it really meant something.

Homer? Who?

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And I never said 10 wins is unreasonable i said going undefeated was

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I realized that after I had posted.

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I also had very low expectations for 2014, we had no QB and most of our talent was young so all these stem entry's you're claiming I made are false.

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Which is why I said

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I'm pretty sure you didn't 

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I don't take offense though I expect this kind of behavior from you when Miles is part of the discussion.

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It's funny because you can't see that youre the same way just on the other side of the coin.

Not true bro I knock all of our coaches when they deserve it. The only one that I didn't was Arnsparger because I was too young to understand a lot of it. And of course Skip.