re: Judging Lee on ONE game last year

Chicken really needs "Team Lee" and "Team Jefferson" as a favorite team option

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We'll just disagree here.

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This isn't an opinion. You can go back and watch the games. After the 3rd game of the season, no one was playing more than seven in the box against LSU.

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Lee was sacked 8 times in 08 not 28

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which would explain the INT's and completion % difference being as JJ never threw the ball.

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I know Lee looked awful in the La Tech game, but why do people conveniently overlook the fact that he MOVED the ball in 2008. I know he threw pick sixes, but those same people made excuses for Jefferson for last year too. Who's to say he hasn't improved? Granted the spring game doesn't mean shite, but how can anyone honestly say the Offense didn't work better with him? It looks like D was the bigger problem and a young QB just took his growing pains and wasn't allowed to grow into the next year. Instead we put in a QB whose only goal was to "not throw an INt."

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Ding ding ding. We have a winner. Some people "Get It", many don't.

Of all the mistakes LM/GC have made since they've been here, pulling JL as the starter and not even giving him any significant snaps (especially early on) in 2009 was the biggest. How's he supposed to learn how to read defenses and see the field better and correct his mistakes by sitting on the GD bench? At least we move the ball, score points and run some semblance of a college level offense with him in there. The "Nevousness" and Picks/Pick 6's will ONLY be eliminated with a lot of playing time.

(You've been reading my posts, huh?).........

Bailey >>>>> Jefferson/Lee

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Bailey >>>>> Jefferson/Lee

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T.C. McCarthy >>>>Bailey>>>>Lee>>>>>Waterboy>>>>>Jefferson

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Always get rid of the ball while jj never does

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While I think Jefferson's sack total is beyond ridiculous, when given the option of high sacks/low turnovers to low sacks/high turnovers, I'm taking the lower turnovers.

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Does the water boy have that good of an arm?

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He's on the bench, so his arm is obviously better than whoever we start at QB.

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He's on the bench, so his arm is obviously better than whoever we start at QB.

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Is he African American or Caucasian so I can determine if I am a racist or not according to some

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Even if it yields an offense like last year's?

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The biggest problem with the offense last year was the rushing game. But yes, even with the offense last year, I take lower turnovers. Turnovers cost games, plain and simple.

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FWIW, I'm not saying it's JJ's fault, as I've actually supported both QB's to this issue

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Crowton is biggest culprit by far. I actually like Lee, I think he's a decent guy and he may have made a good QB had we not allowed Crowton get his hands on him. I just think that Jefferson is better all around and the vast majority of the numbers support this.

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but he is not the clear cut #1 like some think.

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I don't see Lee starting unless Jefferson goes down with an injury (which is completely possible).

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At some point taking no chances down field gets to the point of overkill and puts us out of position to win just as much as turnovers do.

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This changes with a running game. You keep defense defending the run and the field opens up. We don't have a prayer if we can't run the ball this season.