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re: Johnny Jones and the LSU basketball program
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:09 am to dgnx6
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:09 am to dgnx6
quote:something like that. that means the tigers need to go 8-5 in the next 13 games. possible but, not easy. at this point, i wouldn't even chalk up msu as a win.
11 wins
@vandy
scar
@msu
auburn
bama
ky
@tenn
@a&m
fla
@auburn
ole miss
tenn
@ark
not sure where the 8 wins come from looking at that. it's going to be close
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:13 am to bayoubengals88
quote:what i said was accurate. lsu's sos is not great and it's one thing dragging down the rpi. there's only 1 more marquee team left. the rest are mediocre other than ark (probably another loss) meaning - lsu can't afford losses to these mediocre teams like a&m.
Thats obviously not true
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:17 am to bfniii
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you're making my case for me.
Sure he's not
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any more losses and they're off the bubble.
That's if none of the other teams with them/above them have any losses as well which is about as likely as winning the lottery. At 14-4 with 13 more games to go, having to win our next 13 or 11 of our next 13 to stay on the bubble is dumb as shite to say.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 8:21 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:19 am to bfniii
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mediocre teams like a&m.
Top 50 RPI team, losing to Florida would have hurt us more than losing to A&M at this point.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:20 am to Scrowe
quote:which is not at all what i said. nice job
having to win our next 13 to stay on the bubble
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:25 am to bfniii
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which is not at all what i said.
When I replied, this is what you stated.
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you're making my case for me. what are the odds that lsu goes undefeated the rest of the way? nearly impossible, especially as inconsistent as they are. lsu is just inside the top 50 right now but, any more losses and they're off the bubble.
Don't know how that can be interpreted another way.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:25 am to Scrowe
quote:you're missing the point. lsu can't lose any more games to teams in the range that a&m is at. b1g or big12 teams get to play several more ranked, high rpi teams the rest of the way. lsu doesn't have that. they only have mediocre teams and can't afford to lose to them if they want to stay in the top 50.
Top 50 RPI team
95 Jan. 24 @ Vanderbilt
115 Jan. 28 South Carolina
198 Jan. 31 @ Mississippi St
102 Feb. 5 Auburn
47 Feb. 7 Alabama
1 Feb. 10 Kentucky
43 Feb. 14 @ Tennessee
45 Feb. 17 @ Texas A&M
71 Feb. 21 Florida
102 Feb. 24 @ Auburn
50 Feb. 28 Ole Miss
43 Mar. 4 Tennessee
28 Mar. 7 @ Arkansas
none of those rpi numbers stand out except for ky and ark.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:28 am to Scrowe
quote:perhaps you didn't catch the meaning of what i was saying. i was saying that lsu needs a significant amount of wins based on their sos, the rpi and the remaining opponent rpi. this team is too inconsistent right now to count on those wins. they almost need to win out given what other conferences have left as opposed to lsu's sec schedule.
When I replied, this is what you stated
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:38 am to bfniii
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they almost need to win out given what other conferences have left as opposed to lsu's sec schedule.
This is plain silly. You really give too little respect to the SEC. LSU still is in great position to make the tournament.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:43 am to bfniii
Top 50 RPI teams aren't bubble busters, they have to beat the sub 50 teams for sure.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 8:58 am to SouthOfSouth
quote:i disagree. i listed the remaining opponents' rpi. that combined with lsu's already unimpressive sos means lsu is not "in great position." they need a lot of wins against the remaining mediocre rpi numbers to hope to keep up with the acc, b1g, big 12, etc. right now, those wins look doubtful given how inconsistent they are. hopefully there won't be anymore mizzou or a&m performances
This is plain silly
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:00 am to Scrowe
quote:it's not just that simple. lsu is in competition with all the other teams in front of them in the rpi. most of those teams have stronger sos left on their schedule than lsu. lsu has to win to counteract that. the only thing keeping lsu in the top 50 despite an unimpressive sos is wins. continue losing to teams like a&m and the tourney case is out the window. the best acc, b1g, big12 teams aren't going to have those kinds of losses and they're going to have wins against even better rpi numbers. that's what lsu is up against.
Top 50 RPI teams aren't bubble busters, they have to beat the sub 50 teams for sure.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:01 am to bfniii
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mediocre rpi numbers
Majority of the teams are top 50 RPI. What am I reading...
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:02 am to bfniii
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it's not just that simple. lsu is in competition with all the other teams in front of them in the rpi. most of those teams have stronger sos left on their schedule than lsu. lsu has to win to counteract that. the only thing keeping lsu in the top 50 despite an unimpressive sos is wins. continue losing to teams like a&m and the tourney case is out the window. the best acc, b1g, big12 teams aren't going to have those kinds of losses and they're going to have wins against even better rpi numbers. that's what lsu is up against.
So you assume teams that are approximately LSU's RPI have to play a ton of much tougher opponents, but they will just win them all?
I don't think you realize that other bubble teams struggle at times to, that's what makes them a bubble team.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:04 am to oauron
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Majority of the teams are top 50 RPI. What am I reading...
I hate to be rude in here, but this stuff in lunacy.
RPI:
Bama 50
Kentucky 1
2x Tennessee 42
Texas A&M 47
Arkansas 15
Still have 6 more games vs top 50 teams before the SEC Tournament.
This post was edited on 1/21/15 at 9:09 am
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:08 am to TJG210
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You may want to pump the brakes a little.....ole miss is garbage
It was a conference road win against a RPI 55 team. Stop being a bitch.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:08 am to bayoubengals88
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A 16-2 conference record would certainly not be enough to get an 11 seed. The window is tightly shut and locked.
Not sure if serious.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:10 am to SouthOfSouth
If we were to win out as some suggested, which would include being UK and then winning the SEC tourney (which very likely would include another UK matchup) we would most certainly be a one or two seed. So I dont think that is a realistic standard to say we have to beat UK and win out to MAKE the tourney. Teams get beat up in conference play every game.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:11 am to T-mart57
I don't think we would be 1 but I'd say a 2-3 seed would be likely.
Posted on 1/21/15 at 9:11 am to bfniii
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a&m
Was a letdown but with a top 50 RPI that's not too bad of a loss.
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hopefully there won't be anymore mizzou
This is what cannot happen anymore, sub 100 teams are must wins for us.
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