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re: JJ's First Take interview was pretty good
Posted on 6/17/11 at 2:32 pm to Datbayoubengal
Posted on 6/17/11 at 2:32 pm to Datbayoubengal
quote:1|Take away a couple busted plays by LSU DBs and Mallet had a miserable game.
At Arkansas JJ didn't let Knile Davis run for 154 yards and a TD. he also didn't make Hatcher take a bad angle or run into his own teammate which caused an 80 and 85 yard TD.
I remember JJ had a better comp % and threw for around 180yds.
Posted on 6/17/11 at 3:55 pm to Lsuhoohoo
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And you know something? You know something?Not only are we going to take Oregon ... we're going to take West Virginia and Auburn and Alabama and Florida and Tennessee, and we're going to take Ole Miss and Mississippi State and Kentucky. And we're going to take Northwestern State and Western Kentucky and then the SEC title. And then we're going to New Orleans To take back the championship. Yeah!
Posted on 6/17/11 at 4:28 pm to MJM
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Hell Lee deserves it more than jefferson
continue to not post.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 12:04 pm to Gray Tiger
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If less than double digit TD passes results in double digit wins, what's the problem?
Sure I'd take wins over TD passes, but the fact is that was more of an exception to the rule then what normally occurs.
I feel our chances of winning games are higher each week with more consistent qb play and not having to say "well if JJ just plays decently we can squeak out a W."
This post was edited on 6/19/11 at 1:25 pm
Posted on 6/19/11 at 12:40 pm to BilJ
I'll concede your point. After all, Tulane has had pretty impressive QB stats over the bast 10 years. I am supposing that is what accounts for all the conference titles they have.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 12:55 pm to Gray Tiger
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After all, Tulane has had pretty impressive QB stats over the bast 10 years. I am supposing that is what accounts for all the conference titles they have.
Some of you actually act like it was the shitty QB play that led to the 11 wins. There was nothing noteworthy about the QB play last year, nothing to praise and nothing to defend.
Best we can hope for is improved play this year.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 1:13 pm to Gray Tiger
Do you really think you're making legitimate points here???
Posted on 6/19/11 at 1:18 pm to BilJ
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Do you really think you're making legitimate points here???
Please explain why yours are significant.
What are they accomplishing?
What will they ultimately achieve?
Please explain to me why anti-Jefferson posts are more legitimate than those that aren't.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 1:28 pm to BilJ
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Sure I'd take wins over TD passes, but the fact is that was more of an exception to the rule then what normally occurs. The wins didn't even get us an SECW title though (This is where you went waaay off the tracks)>>>because when push came to shove JJ couldn't match the output of better offenses.[/b]
The wins didn't get you to the SECW, because Auburn had a better team. An undefeated, National Championship team.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 1:28 pm to Gray Tiger
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Please explain to me why anti-Jefferson posts are more legitimate than those that aren't.
because you aren't making any sense. If you want to defend JJ's play, go for it. But don't sit here and act like good qb play and winning ball games are mutually exclusive things or JJ's mediocre to poor play was the driving force behind our wins last season.
the Tulane comment was just borderline fricking retarded.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 1:32 pm to BilJ
let's do this....Look at all the BCS NC teams and tell me one QB on that list who had worse stats than JJ had. Hell, show me an SEC title game winner with worse stats.
Can we win a SECC/NC with JJ? Sure. With a better QB do our odds shoot up greatly? Yes.
Can we win a SECC/NC with JJ? Sure. With a better QB do our odds shoot up greatly? Yes.
This post was edited on 6/19/11 at 1:34 pm
Posted on 6/19/11 at 1:58 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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nothing to praise and nothing to defend.
I thought the NC game with QB going 15 of 21 with 2 TDs and a rating of 154 could be praised/defended.
I thought the Florida game with one of our QBs going 9 of 11 with 2 TDs and a rating of 237 could be praised/defended.
I thought the Bama game with our two QBs going 14 of 20 with a TD and one with a rating of 200 could be praised/defended.
Much the same can be said for the Mississippi and bowl game.
While there was inconsistant QB play to complain bout, there was also some fine/good QB play to note.imo
Hopefully, with a new OC, much praised new comer, and more experienced JJ/JL, our QB play will be more consistant...it better be with our schedule or we will be hard pressed to have another 11 win season.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 2:00 pm to BilJ
I'm tired of Rudy's asinine postings. The defense did not "wear down" in the Arky game, they gave up 165 yards on two td passes in the first half and Knile scored in the first quarter. That's 21 points before intermission.
And in the Auburn game of you are going to place blame on Jj for not putting up better passing numbers then you should equally fault Lee because he had the same amount of passes. Hell JJ was the leading rusher with 74 yards and a td, rest of team, 41.
And I don't care who you are, these dudes were missing tackles all fricking game long. No excuse to give up 440 rushing yards along with 86 passing yards.
And in the Auburn game of you are going to place blame on Jj for not putting up better passing numbers then you should equally fault Lee because he had the same amount of passes. Hell JJ was the leading rusher with 74 yards and a td, rest of team, 41.
And I don't care who you are, these dudes were missing tackles all fricking game long. No excuse to give up 440 rushing yards along with 86 passing yards.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 2:18 pm to Datbayoubengal
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The defense did not "wear down" in the Arky game, they gave up 165 yards on two td passes in the first half and Knile scored in the first quarter. That's 21 points before intermission.
It's a team game and the D performed well and better than the O in most games.
Each side of the ball has to do what it takes to win. No one unit/player wins or loses a game. imo
This post was edited on 6/19/11 at 2:23 pm
Posted on 6/19/11 at 2:19 pm to BilJ
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because you aren't making any sense
How are you making more sense?
You quote stats, I quote stats.
What new have you brought to the conversation? How is it that your points are more important?
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But don't sit here and act like good qb play and winning ball games are mutually exclusive things
You sit there and pretend that outstanding QB play guarantees more wins. I merely produced evidence to the contrary.
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JJ's mediocre to poor play was the driving force behind our wins last season.
Anymore than it was the sole reason for the defeats?
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the Tulane comment was just borderline fricking retarded.
How so?
Yet once again you won't or can't answer a few simple questions.
I'll refresh your memory:
Please explain why yours are significant.
What are they accomplishing?
What will they ultimately achieve?
Please explain to me why anti-Jefferson posts are more legitimate than those that aren't.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 2:31 pm to Gray Tiger
Answer the question I asked above
Posted on 6/19/11 at 2:36 pm to Gray Tiger
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I'm tired of Rudy's asinine postings. The defense did not "wear down" in the Arky game, they gave up 165 yards on two td passes in the first half and Knile scored in the first quarter. That's 21 points before intermission.
Obviously you didnt watch much of the games. Go back and watch the Arky and Auburn games especially the 2nd half. In the Auburn game the only TD thrown was by Spencer Ware and his one pass was almost as many passing yards as JJ or Lee in the entire game. Go watch the 2nd half LSU's offense got the ball 4 times or more from their 40 to the Auburn side of the 50 and only scored 1 TD and was 3 and out and 3 and out on drive after drive. Do you not think a defense wears down when the offense is going 3 and out continually. Same for the Arky game in the 2nd half LSU great field position including starting at the Arky 9 and getting just a field goal. 3 and out after 3 and out till JJ started a drive late which was doomed by his horrble clock management as well as a bad snap by T-Bob. You can deny it all you want but it is on the film. You have to get something out of the offense when you are playing good teams against Auburn and Arky they got virtually nothing in either 2nd half.
As for Lee watch the film in the Auburn game after Fairly slammed him he was obviously hurt and wasnt snapping his throws off like he was prior and I beleive he only played 1 series in the 2nd half. Despite being hurt that series was the final one for LSU when even Les wouldnt trust JJ with the 2 minute offense. Against Arky he may have played 1 or 2 series at most.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 3:19 pm to Lonnie4LSU
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Hopefully, with a new OC, much praised new comer, and more experienced JJ/JL, our QB play will be more consistant...it better be with our schedule or we will be hard pressed to have another 11 win season.
What's wrong with the last OC? He "led" LSU to an 11 win season last year?
I support whoever is the QB for LSU any given game, but I don't pretend that LSU had an adequate QB last season.
This post was edited on 6/19/11 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 6/19/11 at 4:46 pm to BilJ
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Answer the question I asked above
This one?
"Do you really think you're making legitimate points here???"
Answer:
Yes. The point simply is that TD passes aren't the determining factor in winning. My example proves it. This is obviously not the answer you want. Or is it that the only legitimate points you accept are those that support your position?You want more examples?
Now answer mine please.
Posted on 6/19/11 at 5:17 pm to Rudy40
Wait a minute lol, you want to bring up JJ's bad performance in this year's spring game when prior to the start they said he hand a sprained throwing hand and again had it hit later in the ball game, but Lee get's a pass when he injured his hand?
And for what your saying yes we should have put up some points in the second half, but this oh so great run game was no where to be found. We had 100 yards rushing for the entire game. When the QB throws for close to 200, the RBs should at least match his production given the fact that we are a run first squad.
I'm not knocking our incredible run game last year and stingy D, but the losses last year were more on them than any other unit. I'm sorry but in one game were you give up 440 rush yards and in another you give up 300+ passing, 150+ rushing, how can you put most of the blame on the offense? At best both sides should take equal blame but that is not on par with your agenda.
I watched the first half the other day but I'll have to see why we couldn't string together any drives in the second half.
And for what your saying yes we should have put up some points in the second half, but this oh so great run game was no where to be found. We had 100 yards rushing for the entire game. When the QB throws for close to 200, the RBs should at least match his production given the fact that we are a run first squad.
I'm not knocking our incredible run game last year and stingy D, but the losses last year were more on them than any other unit. I'm sorry but in one game were you give up 440 rush yards and in another you give up 300+ passing, 150+ rushing, how can you put most of the blame on the offense? At best both sides should take equal blame but that is not on par with your agenda.
I watched the first half the other day but I'll have to see why we couldn't string together any drives in the second half.
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