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re: JJ was money tonight. JL looked scared.

Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:58 am to
Posted by southernproper324
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2011
676 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:58 am to
look jj was good tonight lee choked and was scared. if he would have stayed in the game we would have lost he was exposed. JJ Was the game changer,and to the people who's asking what did he do he managed the game plus he cant throw to people if there covered
Posted by TheMonTSteR
Member since Aug 2007
344 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 12:00 am to
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JJ should be the starter period.


Not just no, but heck no.

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We finally ran into a team with a good defense, and he got exposed.


Hanigriff was saying a short time ago that a source of his told him Bama has 5 top 50 (or 15 -- wasn't sure) NFL draft picks on defense. He also said that LSU hasn't faced a defense like that so far this season, won't face one like that the rest of the year, and may not see one like that for another 15 years.

Judging Lee's performance and worthiness as a starter based on this one game is absurd.

Clearly, we need both QB's. But if you don't think Lee has earned the starting position moving forward, you've got problems.
Posted by Templars
Member since Oct 2005
2999 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 3:26 am to
Lee was jacked by Miles - period. All that confidence he had gained was undermined by the 2 QB system.

Yes, LSU moved the ball a little under Jefferson, but you could hardly call that an offensive display - granted it's Alabama you are facing.

JJ being "money" is an absurd thing to say. If anyone played scared, it was the coaching staff playing too scared to throw. LSU didn't even try to get the vertical passing game going, and Lee could have done that if given the chance.

Still, a win is a win, but now we have a serious question about the QB spot going into the last few weeks.

Posted by Templars
Member since Oct 2005
2999 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 3:27 am to
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Clearly, we need both QB's. But if you don't think Lee has earned the starting position moving forward, you've got problems.


Agreed
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10454 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 3:43 am to
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i said it back when he was fist suspended. JJ would win this game for us.

You, me, and a few others. Voices in the hater wilderness.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10454 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 3:51 am to
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Lol what the frick did jj do win the game?
60% no ints 3.9ypc, same as TR.

What did you want, more ints with Lee?
I like Lee, but the situation was more than he could endure evidently.

The Gumps hate them some dual threat QBs.
Props to CLM for realizing the situation and making the change.
Posted by dke2
dauphin island
Member since Mar 2011
1710 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 3:59 am to
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You, me, and a few others. Voices in the hater wilderness

i was one
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20179 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 4:05 am to
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i was one


me too
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24079 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 4:11 am to
I believe its JJ natural look to look confused and JL to look scared. I dont believe either one is... I just think they look that way when playing. It would be nice if they appeared like matt Flynn - but they dont.

I take them as is.
Posted by kudu
Houston
Member since Sep 2011
50 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 4:17 am to
It was just plain painful to watch this much ineptitude from 2 five year seniors.

JL simply cratered under pressure which was sad to see. He had two rushed throws off his shuffling back feet. Looked scared. Period.

But if we start JJ from here on out we are really in trouble. He was sorry tonight - the guy makes one bad decision after another...

I also think Coach Stud and Miles had a poor offensive game plan. I saw no dump offs or screens to take care of the pressure. Very poor all around.
Posted by Helo
Orlando
Member since Nov 2004
4750 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 4:20 am to
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JJ was money tonight


JJ played poor except on a handful of options. He long scramble was really nice but he was not money. He still can't throw and he demonstrated once again the amazing ability to make a sack a possibility on every snap.

JL played bad but I didn't think at the time we should have pulled him completely. I was pretty sure we would have needed some passing to win, thankfully I was wrong.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20179 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 4:21 am to
Both Miles and Saban were playing conservatively.

The difference is that Miles plays to win and Saban plays not to lose. And there is a difference.

We had a few instances of crappy field position and had either of Lee's interceptions had been at those times, we'd have lost big.
Posted by Morgus
The Old City Icehouse
Member since May 2004
9777 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 4:31 am to
I don't think he looked scared. He just screwed up.
Posted by Mayhawman
Somewhere in the middle of SEC West
Member since Dec 2009
10454 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 4:42 am to
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He still can't throw
60% compared to 30-something% and almost triple the yards of Lee. WTF is up with some of you?
Posted by jeffsdad
Member since Mar 2007
24079 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 4:45 am to
Mayhawman - why the name? Mayhaws in the western USA?
Posted by tigerswin03
SAINTS / PELICANS FAN
Member since Jan 2009
4715 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 4:56 am to
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Jefferson didnt do shite to win this game. It was our INCREDIBLE defense. Jefferson is a dickhead.
as long as we can run the ball and keep pressure off of lee he will be fine,jj was the qb needed in this game and we are lucky to have him.imo if lee stays in the game lsu loses.
Posted by drexyl
Mingovia
Member since Sep 2005
23323 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 5:01 am to
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Still, a win is a win, but
glad you could look past the coaches not following your gameplan and focus on the positive of winning the fricking game. Hope Miles will make a more aesthetically pleasing game for you next week.
Posted by Manchurian Tiger
Far East
Member since May 2009
457 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 5:04 am to
JL does not like to be hit, take a hit, or appear to about to be hit.

I don't know why you guys keep making excuses. That's why we see the happy feet and throws off the back foot. Give him protection in the pocket, he's much better. A little pressure, here comes the "throw and bail" or the "throw and duck".

Miles knows this and knows just how manage him. It's the idiots in Tiger Stadium and on this message board that can't seem to accept it. I'm glad Miles gets to see these guys in live action in practice. There's no green jersey on Saturdays.
Posted by 13SaintTiger
Isle of Capri
Member since Sep 2011
18371 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 5:17 am to
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J played poor except on a handful of options. He long scramble was really nice but he was not money. He still can't throw and he demonstrated once again the amazing ability to make a sack a possibility on every sna

Are you fricking stupid? JJ managed the game, oh btw against Bama, oh yea btw in tuscaloosa! Why when jj manages a game you and other losers give him shite but when Lee manages a game he's the best thing since sliced bread? Lee played poorly, JJ managed against the 2nd best D in the nation. Get over it.
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135489 posts
Posted on 11/6/11 at 5:21 am to
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JL looked scared.


Our receivers were not getting open on downfield routes. JL had no place to go with the ball. Neither did JJ, but he could still run.
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