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re: JJ Running/ Passing QB
Posted on 2/23/10 at 8:19 pm to TIGRLEE
Posted on 2/23/10 at 8:19 pm to TIGRLEE
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...we are looking at another 3-4-5 place finish in the sec. thats (sic) a fact.
No it's not. No matter what you say in an attempt to support your opinions (and you may end up being right or close to it), this is just a prediction. THIS season (2010) is almost 6 months away, which means nothing's happened yet. You do understand that, right? So, no "facts" yet.
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Posted on 2/23/10 at 8:21 pm to johnsec
once again jon.. set the kool aid down my friend.
common sense and facts are often one in the same.
common sense and facts are often one in the same.
Posted on 2/23/10 at 9:32 pm to TIGRLEE
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some of you just absolutley (sic) can not fricking stand it can you?
Can't stand what, idiot boy? I didn't invent the stereotype, or those subtle terms like "athleticism."
Posted on 2/23/10 at 9:36 pm to TIGRLEE
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once again jon.. set the kool aid down my friend.
common sense and facts are often one in the same.
LINK?
Posted on 2/23/10 at 9:43 pm to johnsec
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idiot boy?
come on dude you are better than that.
Posted on 2/23/10 at 9:48 pm to Mayhawman
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You can't spin this to anyone who knows a little bit about football.
Sure he can. He managed to convince himself.
Posted on 2/23/10 at 11:56 pm to TigerFan55555
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ability to hit a wide open reciever IN-STRIDE CONSISTENTLY!!!!
the sun shines on a dogs arse ever so often.
and no DOC no boom.....1/100 isnt consistant...
so did he not progress?
feels like i'm talking to a liberal hack with all this spinning going on.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 12:10 am to Mayhawman
Alright. 7% is actually a huge difference in completion percentage. Second of all, a good run game will take pressure off the quarterback, but more importantly will open up the play action pass game, which can lead to some huge pass plays (when the safeties bite up, which in college, they tend to do). I am not a big fan of JJ, but I want to see him actually open it up and not be gun shy. He has to understand that sometimes, its just going to be picked. The passing windows in the SEC are minuscule, and sometimes you have to put on your Brett Favre hat and hum it in there.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:01 am to Doc Fenton
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TheDoc =/= Doc Fenton
I'm not 100 percent conversant in "Ranter Speak," w/all the inside-jokes and codes, so what does this mean?
Posted on 2/24/10 at 1:06 am to johnsec
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I'm not 100 percent conversant in "Ranter Speak," w/all the inside-jokes and codes, so what does this mean?
They are two different people. =/= means does not equal.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 2:00 am to Mayhawman
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Bye now.
don't we wish
Posted on 2/24/10 at 2:01 am to Jcorye1
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sometimes you have to put on your Brett Favre hat and hum it in there
no!
Not again!
Posted on 2/24/10 at 4:24 am to Doc Fenton
Hey, Doc. Didn't know if you saw my apology on that Spring Game thread from yesterday. It's:
LINK
This one is so magical, huh?
LINK
This one is so magical, huh?
Posted on 2/24/10 at 4:50 am to TIGRLEE
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and didnt really watch last year games if think jj is head and shoulders above jl
i watched lee against la. tech who was missing 2 cornerbacks and 1/2 their D due to injury. That told me all i needed to know
This post was edited on 2/24/10 at 4:51 am
Posted on 2/24/10 at 5:38 am to TigerBait1127
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so in three more games started and played jj had 300 more yrds passing and 4 more tds than JL
logic says with a better running game you run the ball more correct? '
worse running game you run the ball less and pass more correct?
look im not making this a JL/JJ debate.. both IMO are mediocre and if significant improvement at the qb postion is not made QUICK, we are looking at another 3-4-5 place finish in the sec.
thats a fact.
how can you turn a prediction into fact? it's like saying "the world will ends in 2012"
Posted on 2/24/10 at 5:49 am to TIGRLEE
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look im not making this a JL/JJ debate.. both IMO are mediocre and if significant improvement at the qb postion is not made QUICK, we are looking at another 3-4-5 place finish in the sec
:kige:
Why pointing out JJ's shortcomings always evolves into the JJ apologists pointing out JL's shortcomings is a mystery to me. I don't remember any of this when JL was getting hammered on this board in 2008. Since we went there, I also remember that young man standing up and facing the press and his detractors time after time throughout 2008, while JJ seemingly was always MIA after one of his sackfests or groundball events. This, and other observations on gamedays leave me questioning his leadership (not unique on a team that seemed to be missing leaders last year). Both QB's seem to have the brook trout thing going on when they're out there.
I don't think either have the talent to match the rest of the team, especially our other skill players, and if your QB is the weak link, it's never a good thing.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 5:55 am to Icansee4miles
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look im not making this a JL/JJ debate.. both IMO are mediocre and if significant improvement at the qb postion is not made QUICK, we are looking at another 3-4-5 place finish in the sec
you're so right dude!
since JL and JJ are mediocre..Miles should make Garret the starter huh? so we can lose more games next year and yall can bash Garret or ____ (inserts his new replacement).Posted on 2/24/10 at 6:06 am to LSUisOVER9000
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Miles should make Garret the starter
Show me where I said that? What I agreed we need is:
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significant improvement at the qb postion
Several posters have said that the competition at this position (really all the positions) should be wide open in the Spring and we should play the best, no matter age, number of games played, etc. The significant improvement could be one of the two guys that had the keys and wrecked the car the past two years, we just have to have significant improvements, that we never saw throughout two entire seasons (with different QBs), or we will not compete for the big prizes.
I would hate to "start over" with Garrett, but if he is equal or better in the Spring, and has more upside long-term, then maybe we have to take another year of lumps to ensure our return to the Dome in 2011 (2012). Look at the silver lining of that scenario-another year reduces Crowton's buyout to a manageable level.
Posted on 2/24/10 at 6:09 am to Icansee4miles
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significant improvement at the qb postion
option 1: new QB
2: new OC
which one do you want?
Posted on 2/24/10 at 6:19 am to LSUisOVER9000
I pick:
But someone (Les? Alleva? TAF? Lombardi?) has taken that option away for this year, so if a new QB represents the best for us long term, then so be it...option 3-standing pat, is my least favorite. And one of our experienced QB showing significant improvement is 1A, but I am lacking confidence we will see that without a change at OC/QB coach, based on two full years of data (3 if you consider I think GC had very little to do with Flynn's capabilities in 2007)
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2: new OC
But someone (Les? Alleva? TAF? Lombardi?) has taken that option away for this year, so if a new QB represents the best for us long term, then so be it...option 3-standing pat, is my least favorite. And one of our experienced QB showing significant improvement is 1A, but I am lacking confidence we will see that without a change at OC/QB coach, based on two full years of data (3 if you consider I think GC had very little to do with Flynn's capabilities in 2007)
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