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re: JJ and Co. ranked 5th at QB position according to Chris Low
Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:59 pm to Antonio Moss
Posted on 7/20/10 at 4:59 pm to Antonio Moss
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Other than pure arm strength, I'd be surprised to hear a convincing argument that Lee was "better" than Jefferson in a certain area. Now, realize this comes with the disclaimer that both may have been bad in the same area.
I have, but to keep this from becoming an "us vs them" which it is quickly becoming I will refrain from specifics...
LSU fans have a propensity to pick favorites.
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Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:01 pm to RogerTheShrubber
I'm not worried about "us v. them," but I would like to hear what areas you believe Lee is better than Jefferson. I'm being serious.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:01 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:Well, he has a quicker release than JJ...but dambit, he throws it to the wrong friggin' team...quickly.
Other than pure arm strength, I'd be surprised to hear a convincing argument that Lee was "better" than Jefferson in a certain area.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:02 pm to Fishhead
People like to say he makes quicker decisions, but obviously he makes the wrong ones quite a bit.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:04 pm to Fishhead
Yes, he does have a quicker release for sure.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:04 pm to Antonio Moss
I have seen Lee put the team on his back in a couple of games where I have not seen this from JJ. Leadership hasn't quite developed in JJ to this point.
Disclaimer...to keep this from deteriorating. This is not an advocate for Lee starting over JJ.
Disclaimer...to keep this from deteriorating. This is not an advocate for Lee starting over JJ.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:04 pm to Fishhead
So how do you have an argument for LEE?
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:06 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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where I have not seen this from JJ.
Because you don't won't to it would seem
Pretty subjective statement don't you think?
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:07 pm to Fishhead
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People like to say he makes quicker decisions, but obviously he makes the wrong ones quite a bit
This is true and is what keeps Lee on the bench. However, if he sheds this propensity I like his ability to move the ball down the field rather quickly.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:08 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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I have seen Lee put the team on his back in a couple of games where I have not seen this from JJ.
I'm going to disagree here. Lee's best performance was at Auburn. It was good performance, but lets not forget that Auburn ended up being pretty bad that year and Lee had a pick six in that game.
Jefferson played better than Lee's performance against both Washington and Arkansas last year which were nail-bitter games.
I don't think either is a great "leader," but I also thing "leader" is such a subjective adjective thrown around by fans in order to deflect objective comparisons.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:08 pm to TheDoc
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Because you don't won't to it would seem
I am probably the most objective poster on the rant. Have stated JJ's strenghts many times, however....if someone doesn't highly praise JJ in every post they are a hater, in your eyes....or even worse.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:11 pm to Antonio Moss
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I'm going to disagree here. Lee's best performance was at Auburn. It was good performance, but lets not forget that Auburn ended up being pretty bad that year and Lee had a pick six in that game.
Jefferson played better than Lee's performance against both Washington and Arkansas last year which were nail-bitter games.
I wouldn't want the ball in JJ's hands for a final two minute drill, at all. Not until he gets more comfortable doing it.
Again, I like Lee's ability to move the football quickly. Showed glimpses the first half of '08, before he became a head case.
I see an upside to both QB's some only see an upside to one.
This post was edited on 7/20/10 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
So you are saying that JL is better than JJ in the 2 minute offense?
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:13 pm to RogerTheShrubber
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or even worse.
racist?
I just wished LM would bring both in, tell em you both are on about the same level and for the love of GOD one of the two of you pleae take ownership of this fricking position.
This post was edited on 7/20/10 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:14 pm to BayAreaTigerFan
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So you are saying that JL is better than JJ in the 2 minute offense?
Didn't say that. Just said I highly dislike the thought of JJ running a two minute offense and think Lee has the tools to be better at running it. Just opinion.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:14 pm to Antonio Moss
quote:I'm going to disagree as well. People seem to forget that it was BECAUSE of the pick 6s that Lee HAD to throw a bunch, and play catch up. That is fact. That AU comeback was absolutely due to the fact that his mistake put LSU in a hole out of which he had to dig. Under JJ, LSU hasn't been way behind in any games, so we have no idea how he would react. They've been in every game he's played.
I'm going to disagree here. Lee's best performance was at Auburn. It was good performance, but lets not forget that Auburn ended up being pretty bad that year and Lee had a pick six in that game.
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And I wanna say that I'm not a huge proponent of either. But JJ IS heads and shoulders above JLee. Spring games mean squat. If it were otherwise, Richard Murphy would be polishing his 2 Heismans right now.
This post was edited on 7/20/10 at 5:15 pm
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:16 pm to Fishhead
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BECAUSE of the pick 6s
so we went down by 7?
serioulsy.
I was at that game and JL is as big a reason we came back and one as any other one player.
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But JJ IS heads and shoulders above JLee
if you say that enough youll eventually believe it.
This post was edited on 7/20/10 at 5:18 pm
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:17 pm to Fishhead
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I'm going to disagree as well. People seem to forget that it was BECAUSE of the pick 6s that Lee HAD to throw a bunch, and play catch up.
Yet you can't seem to understand that there was a comeback to be made. Simple logic seems to fail here.
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:17 pm to Fishhead
If JJ learns to release the ball quicker it helps LSU
If JL learns not to throw the ball to other team it helps LSU
If JL learns not to throw the ball to other team it helps LSU
Posted on 7/20/10 at 5:18 pm to BayAreaTigerFan
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JJ and Co. ranked 5th at QB position
in the state?
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