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re: Its easy to get a team up for #1 but how motivated will JJ have players 4 Auburn
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:27 am to camplsu
Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:27 am to camplsu
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Deflect deflect deflect. I knew it was a POS school
Yeah you probably would consider it a POS school....it wasn't power 5 if that's what you're wondering.
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Posted on 2/2/16 at 9:50 am to setinways12
Me and you are different in a couple of ways.
A) I'm just a regular type dude with a big arse dick. I went to LSU to chase women, drink too much, watch amazing athletic programs (Just a side note, in my days at LSU we won a Football and Baseball National Championship and went to the Final Four in Basketball.) and somewhere along the way get a degree from the greatest school in the world.
B) I never claimed to be an all knowing genius of the sport of basketball like you yourself have claimed.
Listen I know that you are embarrassed that you walked on at MacCheese State and got cut but it's cool man.
A) I'm just a regular type dude with a big arse dick. I went to LSU to chase women, drink too much, watch amazing athletic programs (Just a side note, in my days at LSU we won a Football and Baseball National Championship and went to the Final Four in Basketball.) and somewhere along the way get a degree from the greatest school in the world.
B) I never claimed to be an all knowing genius of the sport of basketball like you yourself have claimed.
Listen I know that you are embarrassed that you walked on at MacCheese State and got cut but it's cool man.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:07 am to setinways12
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Unfortunately this term is the exact opposite of LSU basketball at the moment. They play in a helter skelter sort of way without movement on offense and without much team discipline on defense. They may play "hard" but there is so much subjectivity in that analysis that I don't even really know if people understand what that even means.
So, that's why I say that loving your coach and playing "hard" for him doesn't always translate into wins.
Perfect analysis. I don't ever question the players love or willingness to play for Jones, nor does it look like they "mail it in" very often. However, you're completely right. Playing hard without playing smart doesn't always translate into wins.
Every game in countless half-court possessions you see LSU with seemingly no coherent structure. 1 guy has the ball and the other 4 are either standing around waiting for something to happen or running around aimlessly with seemingly no apparent direction. How many times have we seen the ball handler dribble to the wing or top of the key looking for a screen, only to see two teammates stand there staring at one another confused as to who is supposed to be setting the screen? There are other times where guys are moving away from the ball but without any particular direction, which leads to two, sometimes 3 guys all inadvertently ending up standing right next to one another.
I think with the team LSU has Jones is trying to create space on the floor. However, because the players are generally freelancing in the half-court offense they many times inadvertently destroy the spacing because they quite literally get in each other's way. Watch how many times TQ or Simmons has the ball at the top of the 3pt point line just desperate for something to happen away from the ball, only to watch their teammates either stand still or move with hesitancy because they don't really know where they are supposed to go. You can see the frustration on Quarterman's or Simmons' faces when they see a play that can be made, but the other guys just don't know what to do.
On defense I think LSU generally plays hard. They just don't always play smart. Instead of just playing hard-nosed defense and staying in front of their man, they seem to be constantly looking for a steal. The downside with always looking to create a turnover is that many times LSU's players find themselves out of position thus allowing an easy basket or picking up an unnecessary foul. One only has to look at the last game to see how much this hurt LSU
With about 14 minutes left in the game Quarterman (who was outstanding all first half and into the second) hits a 3 to put LSU up by 13. He then comes back down and picks up a silly 3rd foul by trying to get an unnecessary reach-around steal. He goes to the bench because of it and the complexion of the game completely changes. OU outscores LSU 33-18 from that point on, including a quick 10-4 run as soon as Quarterman goes to the bench. He was LSU's most important player up to that point because he was scoring AND doing a decent job (as much as possible) defending Heild. He was controlling the game. Yet, he needlessly removes himself from the game trying to force a play that just wasn't there. That wasn't a matter of effort, just a matter of not making a sound play.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:24 am to Alt26
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On defense I think LSU generally plays hard. They just don't always play smart. Instead of just playing hard-nosed defense and staying in front of their man, they seem to be constantly looking for a steal. The downside with always looking to create a turnover is that many times LSU's players find themselves out of position thus allowing an easy basket or picking up an unnecessary foul. One only has to look at the last game to see how much this hurt LSU
I completely agree with this
Personally, I think it is by far the most frustrating aspect of TQs game. He really could be a lock down defender
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 10:31 am
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:30 am to TigerBait1127
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I completely agree with this
So you completely agree with the guy that completely agreed with me....does that mean that you completely agree with me?
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:33 am to camplsu
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A) I'm just a regular type dude with a big arse dick. I went to LSU to chase women, drink too much, watch amazing athletic programs (Just a side note, in my days at LSU we won a Football and Baseball National Championship and went to the Final Four in Basketball.) and somewhere along the way get a degree from the greatest school in the world.
B) I never claimed to be an all knowing genius of the sport of basketball like you yourself have claimed.
Listen I know that you are embarrassed that you walked on at MacCheese State and got cut but it's cool man
Oh I see....so YOU won a national championship and went to a final four? You didn't do shite....you lived thru other people....congrats on your successes.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:34 am to setinways12
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So you completely agree with the guy that completely agreed with me....does that mean that you completely agree with me?
Brilliant logic once again
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:37 am to TigerBait1127
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Brilliant logic once again
Just asking a question??? pretty sound logic in my question I thought? A=B, B=C, does A=C?
It's OK to agree with me every now and then.
Look I'm sorry I offended you with you backboard comment...I promise I won't bring it up again.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:39 am to setinways12
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It's OK to agree with me every now and then.
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So you completely agree with the guy that completely agreed with me....does that mean that you completely agree with me?
I completely agree on that 1 point, a point that he expanded on and you actually argued about with me last week
I agree with you on plenty of things about JJ and LSU.
Where did I say I agreed on his entire post?
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 10:40 am
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:44 am to camplsu
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Bill Walton is the father of an NBA coach. An intern coach for the best team in the NBA
You asked about an analyst...not a coach or father or whatever.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:45 am to setinways12
Those 5-22 seasons at MacNeese sure did teach you some humility. Either that or they hardened you for the daily struggles of life and Tigerdroppings.
And back to a point you made earlier that you lettered at MacNeese. Just for the record, Henry Shortess and Brandon Eddlestone are 2 year lettermen at LSU.
And back to a point you made earlier that you lettered at MacNeese. Just for the record, Henry Shortess and Brandon Eddlestone are 2 year lettermen at LSU.
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 10:51 am
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:50 am to Tigahbader
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In 2009, Walton was named one of the top 50 sports broadcasters of all time by the American Sportscasters Association.
But according to Tigahbader he doesn't know shite about basketball.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:55 am to camplsu
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But according to Tigahbader he doesn't know shite about basketball.
I could pull up websites that have him listed as one of the WORST analysts in Bball as well. Its all relative dude...something you cant seem to wrap your head around.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:58 am to Tigahbader
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I could pull up websites that have him listed as one of the WORST analysts in Bball as well. Its all relative dude...something you cant seem to wrap your head around.
I mean that is a pretty legit source to get a reward from
He's weird, but I think he knows basketball
Can we all agree that Byrd was a knowledgeable player on the offensive and defensive end? Guy was flat out brilliant
Can we also agree that this experience:
Trumps any appeal to experience that setinways12 has. One of the reasons it is a falacy in the first place. He wants to use his experience when it benefits him, but discounts those opinions of others with more experience
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/2/16 at 10:59 am to Tigahbader
I'm going to say that the American Sportscasters Association is a lot credible than anything you try and pull out of your arse.
ETA: And that list was for all sports, not just basketball.
ETA: And that list was for all sports, not just basketball.
This post was edited on 2/2/16 at 11:01 am
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:00 am to TigerBait1127
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Can we all agree that Byrd was a knowledgeable player on the offensive and defensive end? Guy was flat out brilliant
I agree with that. And Ricky Blanton was our Larry Bird. He was a genius on the floor too. More of a genius than any player ever from MacNeese.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:01 am to camplsu
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I'm going to say that the American Sportscasters Association is a lot credible than anything you try and pull out of your arse.
I told you, you would disagree....the hissy fit that you're throwing is just an extra bonus.....carry on homer.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:02 am to camplsu
I'm not going to piss on him for playing college ball. that's awesome and he's obviously proud of it.
I'm going to piss on him for thinking it's a trump card and trying to use it as an arguing point instead of letting his words and thought make and support his opinions.
I'm going to piss on him for thinking it's a trump card and trying to use it as an arguing point instead of letting his words and thought make and support his opinions.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:03 am to Tigahbader
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the hissy fit that you're throwing
I'm not throwing a hissy fit, but nice attempt to come at me, sweet cheeks.
Posted on 2/2/16 at 11:32 am to TigerBait1127
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I completely agree on that 1 point, a point that he expanded on and you actually argued about with me last week
I agree with you on plenty of things about JJ and LSU.
Where did I say I agreed on his entire post?
Hmmmm...I think we misunderstand each other sometimes....I agreed with most if not all of what he said about going for the homerun on defense instead of just playing good solid defense. I'm not sure that I ever said anything to the contrary. Maybe you misunderstood my argument.
And I'm proud of you for saying that you agree with me on plenty of things....
I feel like we're making up.
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