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re: It was not JJ stupid,

Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:20 am to
Posted by UnoMe
Here
Member since Dec 2007
6840 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:20 am to
Please do us all a favor and back away from the keyboard and go to bed. Quit trying to make excuses for JJ. Just like the (JL negi's) said about 11-5 the game was to big for him. He didn't handle it well.

Posted by Rudy40
Baton Rouge,La
Member since Jan 2007
3072 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:21 am to
Right so when our qb cant hit a player downfield for two consecutive games. Looks absolutely clueless on the field all game it is not his fault?

Of course I know JJ believes that but do you guys really believe JJ played well as he himself stated
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9728 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:22 am to
So, you think Miles had a sound game plan and JJ screwed it, hah?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:22 am to
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ANYONE who thinks it was just JJ needs to take the blinders off


Few people are blaming just JJ. Most of the blame is on Miles for sticking with JJ. There should have been a capable backup ready following the crappy performance JJ had in the UGA game. Lee, Mettenberger, someeone....and a somewhat decent backup plan to the shitty offense.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20196 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:22 am to
I have never said JJ played well. I said the entire offense was horrendous, coaching was horrendous, play calling was horrendous and that BAMA played lights out defense. All of that equals what happened last night.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:23 am to
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So, you think Miles had a sound game plan and JJ screwed it, hah?



Both were pretty shitty.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9728 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:24 am to
quote:

Few people are blaming just JJ. Most of the blame is on Miles for sticking with JJ


Not for sticking with JJ, for lack of ability to respond to what Bama is doing. I would have tried Mettenberger.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:26 am to
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Not for sticking with JJ


Yes, for sticking with JJ. Most people don't have your fixation. It was obvious JJ was having problems and reverted to his old self during the UGA game.
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9728 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:28 am to
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Yes, for sticking with JJ. Most people don't have your fixation. It was obvious JJ was having problems and reverted to his old self during the UGA game.


LOL, your fixation with JJ observed. You still don't see what the problem was.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33358 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:31 am to
quote:

So, you think Miles had a sound game plan and JJ screwed it, hah?

Its JJ. Miles had the only game plan that could work with him at QB. Sadly, Saban knew that same game plan

LSU has been limited by JJ in what it cold call. We did not see that limitation with Lee. The Nov game proved that. Planning for Lee resulted in an OT victory. Planning for JJ resulted in an embarassment
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:32 am to
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LOL, your fixation with JJ observed. You still don't see what the problem was.





Unlike yourself, I am able to see the real problems here, the QB position being one of them. You refuse to acknowledge it. In fact your ignorant arse tried to deflect blame to the defense which was the only bright spot, despite being on the field....forever.

Which not only makes you ignorant of the situation, but in a rare class of other fixated, ignorant people that number about 5% of the population.

Everyone else sees it for what it is.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:35 am to
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In fact, had JJ hit an open Landry deep in Bama territory for a TD, the game could have been much different


Second time I see you post this. Did you not see JJ get hit as he was throwing the ball?
Posted by CalTiger53
California
Member since Oct 2011
9728 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:36 am to
quote:

In fact your ignorant arse tried to deflect blame to the defense which was the only bright spot, despite being on the field....forever.


Noop, you can't read because you get emotional as soon as you hear defense because you have JJ in mind. I said why LSU has to trade yards to prevent touchdown but Bama doesn't give up yards and prevents touchdown. Didn't get any reasonable answer.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:37 am to
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Second time I see you post this. Did you not see JJ get hit as he was throwing the ball?



He had tie to get the pass off, and did before he was hit. He was late delivering the ball.

Could have put LSU back in the game, and was the last shot LSU had.
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
33358 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:40 am to
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Did you not see JJ get hit as he was throwing the ball?

Did you not see Lee against Auburn? Got hit, yet still put the ball on the money for a TD? Its JJs long windup. He cant get rid of the ball before the defense closes in on him, or his WR


Facts are facts
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:40 am to
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Of course I know JJ believes that but do you guys really believe JJ played well as he himself stated


Not one person is saying he played well. Do you understand the difference between saying he played well, and saying others also played and coached poorly? All people are saying is it wasn't all his fault. If you can't see that, then you are the one with the problem, not the people you are debating.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295724 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:40 am to
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All people are saying is it wasn't all his fault.


WHo the frick is saying that?
Posted by BRtoATL
Bogota
Member since Aug 2009
232 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:44 am to
I put 90% on Miles and co. Awful, predictable, ultra-conservative game plan. No element of surprise. That's the only reason we won the first game.

Also poor coaching, aka not game planning according to players strengths and weaknesses and not coaching players up properly, aka sticking with the square-peg round hole approach. Case-in-point: if you are going to ask JJ to beat bama using the option, at least teach him how to properly run the option. Commit to the run, not simply a delayed pitch. That is egregious that no one taught him this and that they expected bama to be fooled again and not prepare for this and not to have any backup plan in case bama was ready for this. Wow.
Posted by landrywasbeast30
Member since Nov 2011
4904 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:45 am to
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He had tie to get the pass off, and did before he was hit. He was late delivering the ball.

Could have put LSU back in the game, and was the last shot LSU had


One of us is remembering it wrong, because I remember him getting hit as he was throwing. He had to wait for the guy to run the route. Looked like Jefferson let it go as the guy was making his break, because the ball was just out of his reach when he turned around. JJ needed another split second. He may have made a bad throw anyway, but all the same, another split second.
Posted by Red Stick Tigress
Tiger Stadium
Member since Nov 2005
20196 posts
Posted on 1/11/12 at 12:45 am to
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Did you not see Lee against Auburn?


Apples v. oranges.

Did you not see how Lee played in Tuscaloser?
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