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re: Is the root of the frustration with LM...
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:17 pm to TigerWilson88
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:17 pm to TigerWilson88
Its a deap seated distrust of him. Anything he does is perceived with doubt. He can lose it if he can turn this into a 10-11 win season.
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Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:18 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Defined how? Determined by whom
By the playmaker talent on offense vs the output that talent achieves against defenses we face.
NCAA Statisticians.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:20 pm to NicoBlues
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Keep it 1410, bud. Or just don't Start threads
I hate this kind of bullshite comment. Who the frick are you to tell someone else not to post? If you dont like it, dont read it!
And not for nothing, criticizing someone for lack of originality is ridiculous. If every thread had to meet that standard there MIGHT be three threads on the entire board, probably all on Food and Drink.
This post was edited on 10/15/10 at 12:22 pm
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:25 pm to LSUGradATL
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My frustration was him kicking RP off the team and not having just as good a QB behind him
So Miles and the team should have continued to put up with RP's shite and let him do as he pleases?
Best move Miles ever made in my opinion. The guy was a thug and an embarrassment to LSU.
Some decisions have to be made regardless of football and it's effects on the team.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:27 pm to TigerWilson88
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Is the root of the frustration with LM...
Seriously... It all started with the Arizona St/Madonna headset and the fact that he is not a very good public speaker.
This post was edited on 10/15/10 at 12:28 pm
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:36 pm to The312
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As defined by reason
Reason isn't a definition of the potential. That is a meaningless comment.
You have to tell us exactly in specific terms what the potential is and how it was not met for your premise to be meaningful. i. e. precisely how many yards gained per game is the potential But to make that valid you must also reveal who and how this "potential" mumber was determined. And of course who determined that this was the exact potential that must be reached.
quote:
application of rudimentary logic
Then give us a logical example. Show me some logic here. All I see is empty ranting with no proof.
quote:
Tennessee was a vastly inferior team by any meaningful metric (projected draft picks, record to date, depth of talent) and yet we needed a miracle to beat them because (1) we committed foolish turnovers; (2) we suffered numerous needless penalties; and (3) we couldn't employ basic clock management at the end of the game.
Then accordng to your "logic" the teams with the parameters you described should always win the game? Do they?
b]projected[/b] draft picks?
Are the projections always correct? Are there no "busts" in these projections? Do those with high projections always get picked higher and do those always produce at a high level in the pros? Projected draft picks is an empty measure.
Record to date is similarily meaningless. There are too many human performance variables to put all your eggs in that basket.
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2) we suffered numerous needless penalties
Illogical on two counts. A. Numerous? How many are acceptable? How many are too many? B.What are needful penalties as opposed to needless ones. Othen than having too many men on the field, how many needed penalties were there in the game by either side?
I won't even address the issue of what is a foolish or not foolish turn over.
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we couldn't employ basic clock management at the end of the game.
I'll concede that point.
I suppose potentially there could have been better game management, which seems to have improved in subsequent games.
Nothing you have written proves either logic or reason, just the empry rantings of a fan.
You really aren't good at this are you?
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:50 pm to LSUinMA
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I hate this kind of bullshite comment. Who the frick are you to tell someone else not to post? If you dont like it, dont read it!
And not for nothing, criticizing someone for lack of originality is ridiculous. If every thread had to meet that standard there MIGHT be three threads on the entire board, probably all on Food and Drink.
WELL SAID!!
Those kinds of posts discourage active discussions which, last time I checked, is opposite of the whole point of a damn forum... I guess trolls have to get their kicks somehow
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:52 pm to Uncommon Cents
Uncommon Delusion, in your insane, frantic drive to apologize for everything Miles, you have proven yourself to be an incorrigible dunce.
Your most recent post is an actual masterpiece of buffoonery. It needs to be enshrined for all eternity in the guilded halls of stupidity.
You asked how one could tell if a team had played up to potential. My response was anecdotal: you can tell that a team certainly has NOT played up to its potential when it needs a fortuitous miracle to beat a vastly inferior team. How is it that I know Tennessee is a vastly inferior team? Three ways: (1) We have recruited better than Tennessee and have more depth. This is confirmed by objective, third party recruiting rankings (there was an enlighting post on this very topic earlier today); (2) projected NFL talent; (3) record to date. Therefore, I have provided three sources of credible evidence proving that Tenn is inferior. Your responses are priceless exercises in lunacy. You offer NO affirmative evidence that Tennessee is as good as LSU. You don't even mention the talent gap (you can't explain it away). You posit some generic critique of NFL draft projections. Inane. And then, in the coup de grace of idiocy, you say this:
Are you kidding me? You just argued that a team's RECORD is not indicative of its actual quality. I'll commend you on having the temerity to publically make a statement that fricking dumb. According to your logic, when a 1-9 team faces a 10-0 team, one can't quite be sure that the 10-0 team is really better. Moreover, if the 10-0 team struggles against the 1-9 team and needs a miracle to win, one can't REALLY be certain that the 10-0 didn't play to its potential.
Really?
Here is the bottom line:
Tennessee was a bad team.
Very bad.
We played exceedinly poorly against them. OUR mistakes were the only reason they were in the game.
We did not play up to our potential (as established by, yes, reason) against Tenn.
And, similarly, it was only our own ERRORS that made the Florida game closer than it needed to be.
Your most recent post is an actual masterpiece of buffoonery. It needs to be enshrined for all eternity in the guilded halls of stupidity.
You asked how one could tell if a team had played up to potential. My response was anecdotal: you can tell that a team certainly has NOT played up to its potential when it needs a fortuitous miracle to beat a vastly inferior team. How is it that I know Tennessee is a vastly inferior team? Three ways: (1) We have recruited better than Tennessee and have more depth. This is confirmed by objective, third party recruiting rankings (there was an enlighting post on this very topic earlier today); (2) projected NFL talent; (3) record to date. Therefore, I have provided three sources of credible evidence proving that Tenn is inferior. Your responses are priceless exercises in lunacy. You offer NO affirmative evidence that Tennessee is as good as LSU. You don't even mention the talent gap (you can't explain it away). You posit some generic critique of NFL draft projections. Inane. And then, in the coup de grace of idiocy, you say this:
quote:
Record to date is similarily meaningless. There are too many human performance variables to put all your eggs in that basket.
Are you kidding me? You just argued that a team's RECORD is not indicative of its actual quality. I'll commend you on having the temerity to publically make a statement that fricking dumb. According to your logic, when a 1-9 team faces a 10-0 team, one can't quite be sure that the 10-0 team is really better. Moreover, if the 10-0 team struggles against the 1-9 team and needs a miracle to win, one can't REALLY be certain that the 10-0 didn't play to its potential.
Really?
Here is the bottom line:
Tennessee was a bad team.
Very bad.
We played exceedinly poorly against them. OUR mistakes were the only reason they were in the game.
We did not play up to our potential (as established by, yes, reason) against Tenn.
And, similarly, it was only our own ERRORS that made the Florida game closer than it needed to be.
This post was edited on 10/15/10 at 12:55 pm
Posted on 10/15/10 at 12:56 pm to Tiger_n_ATL
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Us.
Who again?
Oh the fat boozy fan. Gotcha.
quote:
Do you really need this spelled out for you?
Yeah. This could be fun. Babble on.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:06 pm to icarus
quote:
I hate this kind of bullshite comment. Who the frick are you to tell someone else not to post? If you dont like it, dont read it!
And not for nothing, criticizing someone for lack of originality is ridiculous. If every thread had to meet that standard there MIGHT be three threads on the entire board, probably all on Food and Drink.
WELL SAID!!
Those kinds of posts discourage active discussions which, last time I checked, is opposite of the whole point of a damn forum... I guess trolls have to get their kicks somehow
Y'all can both go frick yourself. Especially you, noob.
It's cool to start unoriginal threads and all, but this shite has been beat to death so much it's pathetic.
This thread should have gotten an anchor upon SUBMIT.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:13 pm to dreaux
I must admit that I would have been ok with Lee transferring to McNeese, after his INT's v Auburn and Georgia 2008.
I dont like OC Crowton's playcalling, especially in that Auburn game and the Ga game in which Lee threw the INTS. They seem to have ended the practice of everyone looking to the sidelines for 20 seconds.
I like Miles, but not OC Crowton.
Even if LSU wins every game and the SEC CG and the BCS cg
I would be glad for OC Crowton to move along to greener pastures. Gonzo or Wilson can OC.
I dont like OC Crowton's playcalling, especially in that Auburn game and the Ga game in which Lee threw the INTS. They seem to have ended the practice of everyone looking to the sidelines for 20 seconds.
I like Miles, but not OC Crowton.
Even if LSU wins every game and the SEC CG and the BCS cg
I would be glad for OC Crowton to move along to greener pastures. Gonzo or Wilson can OC.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:25 pm to The312
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Uncommon Delusion, in your insane, frantic drive to apologize for everything Miles, you have proven yourself to be an incorrigible dunce.
And your constant drumbeat of criticism of Miles makes you a genius? Interesting bit of self love there.
quote:
Your most recent post is an actual masterpiece of buffoonery. It needs to be enshrined for all eternity in the guilded halls of stupidity.
It is interesting that a stupid person like me has you turned inside out. But I am gratified that you accept my superiority.
Here is a trip down memory lane for you:
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I want the team to consistently play to its potential.
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Defined how?
Determined by whom?
How is the potential defined? How many first downs, touchdowns, sacks, etc. You have to be able to put a quantity on things before you can measure whether the object has been met.
You didn't. Now tell me exactly what is the potential. Precisely.
And to make your requirements valid you have be able to prove that the measurements were drawn up by a person capable of knowing the subject. Your failure on that score is glaring.
I could have challenged you on the consistantly part, but I realized that would be way to much for you to handle.
Your rantings and personal attacks prove nothing. You never answered my challenge because you can't. You have nothing to prove your points because you have nothing but whining to support them. You came to the mental gunfight armed with a knife.
The truth is that this LSU team is not winning in the way YOU want it to. Well boo hoo.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 1:34 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Uncommon Cents
You put way too much time and energy into being a message board bad arse. Not that I don't agree with your points, because I do. But you try entirely to hard to be a dick.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 2:27 pm to Uncommon Cents
quote:Great response as usual. This from the mental midget who is excoriating another poster for not providing BONA FIDE FACTUAL STATISTICS to back up every post he makes. As if somehow, this is both a logical, and normal way to post on a message board.
Who again?
Oh the fat boozy fan. Gotcha.
quote:
Do you really need this spelled out for you?
quote:You are like arguing with a retard, I think you do it just for fun. You provide no actual thought or information on the board at all.
Yeah
Posted on 10/15/10 at 2:30 pm to The312
quote:I think he is one of Miles relatives, or his agent. He's on the gravy train and wants to keep Miles employed as long as he can so that he can suck off of Miles teet and the Golden Goose that is LSU football.
Uncommon Delusion, in your insane, frantic drive to apologize for everything Miles, you have proven yourself to be an incorrigible dunce.
Posted on 10/15/10 at 2:32 pm to Uncommon Cents
quote:The longest garbage post in the history of Tigerdroppings.
As defined by reason
Reason isn't a definition of the potential. That is a meaningless comment.
You have to tell us exactly in specific terms what the potential is and how it was not met for your premise to be meaningful. i. e. precisely how many yards gained per game is the potential But to make that valid you must also reveal who and how this "potential" mumber was determined. And of course who determined that this was the exact potential that must be reached.
quote:
application of rudimentary logic
Then give us a logical example. Show me some logic here. All I see is empty ranting with no proof.
quote:
Tennessee was a vastly inferior team by any meaningful metric (projected draft picks, record to date, depth of talent) and yet we needed a miracle to beat them because (1) we committed foolish turnovers; (2) we suffered numerous needless penalties; and (3) we couldn't employ basic clock management at the end of the game.
Then accordng to your "logic" the teams with the parameters you described should always win the game? Do they?
b]projected[/b] draft picks?
Are the projections always correct? Are there no "busts" in these projections? Do those with high projections always get picked higher and do those always produce at a high level in the pros? Projected draft picks is an empty measure.
Record to date is similarily meaningless. There are too many human performance variables to put all your eggs in that basket.
quote:
2) we suffered numerous needless penalties
Illogical on two counts. A. Numerous? How many are acceptable? How many are too many? B.What are needful penalties as opposed to needless ones. Othen than having too many men on the field, how many needed penalties were there in the game by either side?
I won't even address the issue of what is a foolish or not foolish turn over.
quote:
we couldn't employ basic clock management at the end of the game.
I'll concede that point.
I suppose potentially there could have been better game management, which seems to have improved in subsequent games.
Nothing you have written proves either logic or reason, just the empry rantings of a fan.
You really aren't good at this are you?
Posted on 10/15/10 at 2:58 pm to TigerWilson88
all shown below:
1. Public speaking ability
2. Either tell the truth or say I'm not going to answer the question...enough of the coach speak...we are not all dummies
3. hardheaded...won't change his mind once he makes it up
4. Doesn't develop players enough
5. Let's his assistants get away with bad coaching
6. Clock management
7. Dumb play calling
8. Picks his nose during interviews
1. Public speaking ability
2. Either tell the truth or say I'm not going to answer the question...enough of the coach speak...we are not all dummies
3. hardheaded...won't change his mind once he makes it up
4. Doesn't develop players enough
5. Let's his assistants get away with bad coaching
6. Clock management
7. Dumb play calling
8. Picks his nose during interviews
Posted on 10/15/10 at 3:07 pm to Uncommon Cents
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Defined how? Determined by whom?
Pretty sure I answered this for you hours ago
Posted on 10/15/10 at 3:17 pm to NicoBlues
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It's cool to start unoriginal threads and all, but this shite has been beat to death so much it's pathetic.
This thread should have gotten an anchor upon SUBMIT.
Nico you don't like it..Then GTFO
Posted on 10/15/10 at 3:20 pm to NicoBlues
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But you try entirely to hard to be a dick.
Pot calling the Kettle what?
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