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re: Is it unrealistic to think that JJ has improved 15%

Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:02 pm to
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
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Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:02 pm to

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Anyway I like the new sig better than the other one you gave me. Who said the other one about "let em figure it out on the pine, the pine helps people figure things out"? Bear Bryant, lloyd Carr, Joe Pa?

Mitch Gaspard...head baseball coach at Bama..
This post was edited on 9/2/10 at 12:04 pm
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:05 pm to
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Mitch Gaspard
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:06 pm to
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go back to coaching school homey...yo arse just got schooled


Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:12 pm to
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go back to coaching school homey...yo arse just got schooled


Boom!

That would make a good sig too! This guy is full of em!
Posted by Sammobile
Hollywood South
Member since Jan 2009
22409 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:16 pm to
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It wont let me fix the drawing so without pictures most of the people on here cant figure it out cause their stupid...


Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28817 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:18 pm to
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go back to coaching school homey...yo arse just got schooled


Why would someone go back to coaching school if they just got schooled?

I think you meant to say owned but you're good though.
Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
8934 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:19 pm to
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It wont let me fix the drawing so without pictures most of the people on here cant figure it out cause their stupid
this never gets old
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:27 pm to
I've never laughed so much reading one thread!

Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:35 pm to
***********************X*1/3******************
********1/3*X*********************X*1/3*******
****************X*****open****X***************
X*************/*X***X***X***X***\************X
Bump*************\***\*/***/**************Bump

Bump and Run Nickel Coverage with middle pinch while backer takes the edge...Middle of the field underneath is open...we saw it all day long last year.

im out...die thread...

Posted by TruLsu
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2009
8934 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:42 pm to
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Bump and Run Nickel Coverage with middle pinch while backer takes the edge...Middle of the field underneath is open...we saw it all day long last year. im out...die thread...
this is one example of how a bump and run can be used but its not what bump and run is.... you can bump the wr whenever the frick you want to, a d coordinator is not going to call in a play saying "nickel bump and run" everybody but the corners dont have an assignment in this case. so no you are still wrong... but nice try though
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:51 pm to
So are you saying that we can't bump and run in a cover two or Dime defense? The corners can only bump in nickel packages?
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76706 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:51 pm to
Geeze. This is still going on?
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28817 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:57 pm to
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TigerFan55555


I'd just admit that I goofed up the first time instead of posting something that doesn't 100% prove your first point. there are no such things as bump and run coverages or packages. It is a technique that CBs use to jam a WR at the line.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 12:58 pm to
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Geeze. This is still going on?


TF hasn't made his point yet. So we are giving him ample oppertunity to "take us to coaching school"
Posted by Antonio Moss
The South
Member since Mar 2006
49035 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 1:10 pm to
Alright, I'm tired of this thread.

TF5 to sixth power,

The reason it appears that the middle of the field is open on "bump and runs" is because in these nickel packages, the coverage formations are normally "nickel cover 2 man bump."

This means:

1) Defense is in nickel package - 4 DL, 2 LBs, 5 DBs

2) The defense is playing a cover 2 package - this means the CBs, the NB, and the LBs are playing man coverage while the SS and FS are playing over the top zone coverage split.

3) The bump signifies bump and run on the outside.

So when the LBs cover the RB and the TE/FB man to man, the middle of the field opens up.

A WR that can shake loose of the bump coverage on the outside will often be open in the middle of the field because the safeties are playing over the top.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 1:15 pm to
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1) Defense is in nickel package - 4 DL, 2 LBs, 5 DBs

2) The defense is playing a cover 2 package - this means the CBs, the NB, and the LBs are playing man coverage while the SS and FS are playing over the top zone coverage split.

3) The bump signifies bump and run on the outside.

So when the LBs cover the RB and the TE/FB man to man, the middle of the field opens up.

A WR that can shake loose of the bump coverage on the outside will often be open in the middle of the field because the safeties are playing over the top.


Makes too much sense. I want to hear what TF5 has to say. It's much more entertaining!
Posted by MightyYat
StB Garden District
Member since Jan 2009
25029 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 1:21 pm to
H O L Y S H I T!!!!!! I can't believe 5s made a fricking diagram of his crazy shite. He's almost too good to be true.
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 1:27 pm to
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I can't believe 5s made a fricking diagram of his crazy shite


How else is he going to take us to coaching school? He still didn't answer my question though. Maybe I didn't raise my hand high enough.
Posted by TigerFan55555
Tomball, TX
Member since Nov 2008
9833 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 1:32 pm to
quote:

Antonio Moss


quote:


The reason it appears that the middle of the field is open on "bump and runs" is because in these nickel packages, the coverage formations are normally "nickel cover 2 man bump."

This means:

1) Defense is in nickel package - 4 DL, 2 LBs, 5 DBs

2) The defense is playing a cover 2 package - this means the CBs, the NB, and the LBs are playing man coverage while the SS and FS are playing over the top zone coverage split.

3) The bump signifies bump and run on the outside.

So when the LBs cover the RB and the TE/FB man to man, the middle of the field opens up.

A WR that can shake loose of the bump coverage on the outside will often be open in the middle of the field because the safeties are playing over the top.


As I said earlier yes there are many ways to run a nickel package...the way that I drew it up was cover 3 with the nickel, free, and SS each having 1/3rds, obviously you can run cover 2 withe SS and FS deep 1/2's...like i said many ways to run it...

your lb's have man to man on TE/RB just like you said....

And you should know that our play calling was so predictable last year as we changed to running personel opp defenses were switching to a run stopping defense such as the one illustrated above, therefore strong against pass (nickel) but effective vs the run (middle pinch) + (backer edge) Nickel cover 3 bump Pinch

and im not paying any attention to the dumbshits still harping on bump and run...bump and run is obviously a technique that CB's do...it can also be apart of a call as i was stating in the beginning.....fricking idiots...
Posted by TigerWilson88
West Monroe
Member since Jul 2008
1948 posts
Posted on 9/2/10 at 1:42 pm to
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im not paying any attention to the dumbshits still harping on bump and run...bump and run is obviously a technique that CB's do...it can also be apart of a call as i was stating in the beginning.....fricking idiots...



Whoa who pinched a loaf of poo poo off in your cheerios? No need to call names. You alluded to the fact that the bump and run was part of nickel schemes only. You may not have meant it that way, but that's how it came across. We just wanted clarification as to what you meant. Dang bro relax.
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