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re: Is Coach O going to "Make LSU Football Great Again!"?

Posted on 1/24/17 at 7:20 am to
Posted by Datbayoubengal
Port City
Member since Sep 2009
28859 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 7:20 am to
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No there aren't. He actually seems like a pretty awesome guy and someone I'd love on the staff. However, there are people like me that are concerned about the long-term viability of hiring a coach that has never had any semblance of success running a program and that requires two elite coordinators to be successful. No reason to believe we won't be golden the next couple years with Canada/Aranda running the offense and defense. O's real worth will be determined when those two leave.


All of this. Seriously, with LSU's talent, Aranda on defense and hopefully Canada changing the QB play and system for the better, LSU will be golden the next 2-3 years. The real test becomes after that. These two pretty much fell into his lap. It's really on him to find the next stars to coach both sides.

That's my whole problem with him is that he doesn't lock down one side of the ball. You can't count on one side being always good no matter who the coordinator is.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85503 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 7:55 am to
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I don't hold Alleva's incompetence against Orgeron.
Posted by Bojangles
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
2092 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 8:03 am to
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fell into his lap


Wow

Some of you were born a loser and will die a fricking loser.

Pathetic.
Posted by dgnx6
Member since Feb 2006
85503 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 8:04 am to
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Give O the same benefit of a full cycle to recruit. 



O was on the staff prior. He became the head coach with most of these guys already on board, some because of him. Sure a few needed some more reassurance, but that happens with a coaching change.

So id say Ed O is set up to not fail. We just shelled out ridic money for coordinators, already has an almost full class. So there is no excuses for me moving forward.
Posted by Bojangles
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2008
2092 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 8:07 am to
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:28 am to
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You're of the opinion their resumes were better.


What? I didnt use opinions. I used facts.


Those coaches have proven they can run a side of the ball. Ed orgeron has never ran a successful side of the ball. Their resumes are better.

Youre opinion doesnt outweigh facts that they have had successful tenures as a coordinator. Ed orgeron has never never ran a successful offense, defense ,or program. He has been a position coach for 29 of his 32 years. Those are facts.


Which resume is better....

Coach A
Has been a successful coordinator

Coach B
Has never in his life been a successful coordinator.
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 9:30 am to
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Don't take Rick too seriously when it comes to coach O he refuses to admit he had more head coaching experience than his idol Les when we hired him. Even though it's a fact he did.


What? Miles turned around a program with 1 winning season in the last 14 years and had them winning 9 games and 3 straights winning seasons
Orgeron took over a program 2 years removed from a 10 win season amd ran them into the ground and got worse as his tenure increased.
Only a dumbass would count interim coaching as head coach. There is reason the word interim is attached to the head coaching title.
You continue to show your football ignorance and your inability to do elementary math.


Miles was a HC for 4 years.

O was a coach for 3 years( worst tenure in ole mis history).

These are facts.

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Exactly kiffin had a horrible head coaching record (5-15) chizick was 5-19 at Iowa state


Coach A: very successful defensive coordinator
Coach B: nfl head coach and successful offensive coordinator
Coach C: never been a successful coordinator or head coach.



This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 9:57 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215999 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:10 am to
Your wanting I to fail shows no boundaries.... you are a terrible LSU fan... you want LSU to have a losing record next year JUST so you can say you were right..... pathetic....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:14 am to
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Your wanting I to fail shows no boundaries.... you are a terrible LSU fan... you want LSU to have a losing record next year JUST so you can say you were right..... pathetic....


Using your own logic you wanted lsu to fail for the last decade under miles.
All you ever did was shite on miles so you rooted against lsu the last decade.

Unlike you i can not agree with a coaching hire and still cheer for lsu.

Also, youre not even a lsu fan. Youve never stepped foot on campus.

I love when people like you talk yourself into a corner.
If posting negative things ( in my casethey are facts) about coach means you want lsu to fail, then you wanted lsi to fail for a decade.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:18 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215999 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:25 am to
Broken record.... my fan hood is way stronger than yours and I only bashed on Miles when there was a reason too... just like a thousand other LSZu fans have.... you are just scared that coach O will come in here and do a better job than your boyfriend did... it's pretty simple to figure out....
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:30 am to
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my fan hood is way stronger than yours

No its not. I pay in to TAF and have season tickets.
Youve never stepped foot on campus.
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only bashed on Miles when there was a reason too.

You wanted lsu to fail.
There is reason to bash the Orgeron hire. Im not even close to the only one that thinks this is a shite hire.
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you are just scared that coach O will come in here and do a better job than your boyfriend did.


I hope he is more successful than miles.
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it's pretty simple to figure out....


Yeah everyone that wants lsu to hire a qualified coach is scared O will be better than miles.
If youre ok with Alleva hiring a coach that has never had any success as a HC or as coordinator then youre a shite lsu fan.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:31 am
Posted by dukke v
PLUTO
Member since Jul 2006
215999 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:34 am to
You sound like a 5 year old... what makes you think I have never set foot on the campus..... I highly doubt you pay anything to the TAF.... do you do that for Duke as well???? Since you claim you went there....: lol:
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:43 am to
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You sound like a 5 year old...


You sound like a 60 year old ttailer park resident.

Ive tried to let yoi come to this realization yourself but you clearly cant.

You constantly shite on miles and thought your reason were valid.
Yet you dont want me to constantly crap on hiring a coach that has never ran a successful side of the ball or a successful program.

My reasons are just as valid as your reasons the difference is you were bitching about YOUR OPINION. Im bitching about the fact that lsu DID HIRE a coach that has never been a successful coordinator or head coach.

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highly doubt you pay anything to the TAF.... do you do that for Duke as well???? Since you claim you went there....: lol:




Youre a 60 year old trailer park resident that shits in a bag. Maybe you should worry about yourself.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:44 am to
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Rickdaddy4188


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Yet you dont want me to constantly crap on hiring a coach that has never ran a successful side of the ball or a successful program.


Yep, same dead horse beating from you in yet another thread. Get some new material already
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71116 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:45 am to
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If posting negative things ( in my casethey are facts) about coach means you want lsu to fail, then you wanted lsi to fail for a decade.


It is not a fact Orgeron was a bad coaching hire. That is the very definition of an opinion, an opinion you hold that many many other do not. Yes, you've selected facts about his resume you find to be more relevant or persuasive as to how good he'll be as a head coach. Others have posted additional facts of which they believe lend to his potential as a head coach. But at the end of the day, all of this is nothing but opinions people hold. The value of a hire is not an issue of fact but an issue of opinion.
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Also, youre not even a lsu fan. Youve never stepped foot on campus.


says guy from Murfreesboro, Tennessee
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No its not. My father pays into TAF and has season tickets.

FIFY
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:48 am
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:46 am to
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Yep, same dead horse beating from you in yet another thread. Get some new material already


You dont need new material when youre posting facts.
Posted by RATeamWannabe
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2009
26018 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:49 am to
Except you are pretty much using alternative facts at this point since both of yours have been proven false in multiple instances but you refuse to acknowledge it, but you do you
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:50 am to
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It is not a fact Orgeron was a bad coaching hire


Its a fact that Orgeron has never ran a successful side of the ball or been a successful head coach.
Thats the fact i was referencing.
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Others have posted additional facts of which they believe lend to his potential as a head coach.

What? That he has good coordinators?
There is a reason we have the lowest paid head coach in the sec.

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says guy from Murfreesboro, Tennessee


I fly in for every lsu home game little guy.
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No its not. My father pays into TAF and has season ticket

My dad doesnt cheer for lsu. But hey why would you stop posting ignorant shite now?
Posted by Rickdaddy4188
Murfreesboro,TN
Member since Aug 2011
47985 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:53 am to
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Except you are pretty much using alternative facts at this point since both of yours have been proven false in multiple instances but you refuse to acknowledge it, but you do you


What?
No other blue blood would promote a 55 year old position coach.

Dabo was 41 and ran his offense during his interim tenure.

Bama hired Dubose because of probation and then immediately regretted it because his tenure was shite.



So please enlighten me to these career position coaches, that have never ran a successful offense, defense ,or.program that have won a title.
This post was edited on 1/24/17 at 10:54 am
Posted by lsufball19
Franklin, TN
Member since Sep 2008
71116 posts
Posted on 1/24/17 at 10:55 am to
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Except you are pretty much using alternative facts at this point since both of yours have been proven false in multiple instances but you refuse to acknowledge it, but you do you

What he's really done is cling on to a select few facts about resumes and covers his ears to anything to the contrary. He has, several times in this thread, posted incorrect information, and when corrected, he either dismisses it entirely or crawfishes and makes excuses as to why he was still right even though he was wrong. In his arguments, which are generally full of grammatical and syntax errors, appearing as if a 12 year wrote them, he will harp onto one sentence in a multiple paragraph response he doesn't like and call the poster a dumbass that "doesn't know football." This, btw, is his go-to comeback in any football related debate. All of this leads me to believe he's either uneducated or very young or both.

His ad hominem attacks on people when they don't agree with him are also amusing, even though I'm sure he believes they are compelling when he hits the submit button.
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