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re: I'm happy we are going to start off next season under the radar.

Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:58 am to
Posted by Elleshoe
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:58 am to
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not a snowballs chance.



and that's why you're looking at a runner up finish (at best) in the SECW next season.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:58 am to
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If I thought it'd make me more successful in the long haul then yeah.


More successful than losing 1 or 2 games a year and being in the hunt every season? That's a big pride pill to swallow for not that much more reward than you're already garnering on your own.

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We have been downright awful for 5 years in a row with elite talent.


He got rid of Crowton and now you want him to get rid of Stud/Krag 2 years later .. not every change is necessarily a good one. Hindsight is 20/20 .. most people thought the Krag hire was fantastic.

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If he doesn't want to make those moves then maybe its time for LSU to make a move.


Welp, that ain't happening. And you can blame the AD and the TAF for that, not Miles.

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ecause there are coaches in the SEC that appear to be more prepared on game day than Les is that we could 100% get to Baton Rouge.


Like whom? LSU isn't the darling of a program you think it is. TAMU, Auburn, Florida, Georgia, Tennessee all have as much clout.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 12:59 am to
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and that's why you're looking at a runner up finish (at best) in the SECW next season.



False. It's because Nick Saban coaches at Alabama, LSU has a bitch of a schedule compared to its divisional counterparts, and we happened to have a bad year where many underclassmen left early.
Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:01 am to
Yes having a functional offense will offset the losses on defense. Plenty of people thought our defense was going to fall way off after we lost nevis, sheppard, and Peterson but it didnt.
What makes an OC legit? I dunno, what makes any coach legit. Winning. Hire a respectable and proven guy and get the frick out of his way
Posted by tgr4ever
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Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:01 am to
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Is this real or just some real hope?
If Cameron doesn't take the Jets job I say it has a very high chance of happening
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:02 am to
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and that's why you're looking at a runner up finish (at best) in the SECW next season.

we're looking at a runner up or 3rd because we have to go on the road to UGA and still play UF.

As of right now, I'm not even sleeping on Ole Miss.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:03 am to
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Yes having a functional offense will offset the losses on defense.


Not necessarily. Just may lose close games 41-38 rather than close games 21-17.

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Plenty of people thought our defense was going to fall way off after we lost nevis, sheppard, and Peterson but it didnt.


That's not the same as losing this many people. No depth in the SEC = 1 or 2 losses right there.

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What makes an OC legit? I dunno, what makes any coach legit. Winning. Hire a respectable and proven guy and get the frick out of his way


Any names?
Posted by Elleshoe
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Member since Jun 2004
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:03 am to
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Like whom?


I'm sure you'll call me a moron and an idiot but I think James Franklin is a fine coach.

I just don't see how anyone other than Les can be happy with an offense that's consistently ranked in the 70's. I honestly don't know if he sees it as a problem spot.

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being in the hunt every season


being in the hunt isn't good enough when you're biggest rival has won 3 of the past 4 titles and you haven't won a BCS bowl in 5 years.

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He got rid of Crowton and now you want him to get rid of Stud/Krag 2 years later


Either way, I doubt it'd help. If we had Sean Payton he'd probably hand cuff him too.

Posted by TigerSinceBirth4Life
BR
Member since Sep 2007
1590 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:03 am to
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Its plainly obvious Les is the problem with this offense.


Les was not the problem this year. Poor execution is what cost us our losses this year. If you choose to lay that at his feet, so be it, but I think the ridiculous amount of injuries and attrition, especially on the OL were the biggest factors to our offensive problems. Not to mention the WR refusing to catch passes early on. Playcalling was not the issue.

Not to mention Mett's first season as a starter growing pains should have been expected. He still was a huge upgrade IMO.

Posted by LSU fan 246
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:04 am to
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? LSU isn't the darling of a program you think it is


With the talent we have and the in state talent every year, its a top job.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:06 am to
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I'm sure you'll call me a moron and an idiot but I think James Franklin is a fine coach.


West Coast offense. Great.

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being in the hunt isn't good enough when you're biggest rival has won 3 of the past 4 titles and you haven't won a BCS bowl in 5 years.


Agreed.. but what I'm trying to tell you is there's nothing we can do about it! Bama has Saban. Done. Over. He's the best. You will ALWAYS play second fiddle to him. It's fricking logic. You can't be consistently better than the best there is. It just doesn't work.

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Either way, I doubt it'd help. If we had Sean Payton he'd probably hand cuff him too.



Exactly. How many head coaches can you name that set their ego aside and let someone else completely run half of their football team with no input from the man in charge?
Posted by JBeam
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Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:06 am to
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With the talent we have and the in state talent every year, its a top job.

it's in the four to ten range of jobs in the country.
Posted by Elleshoe
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Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:06 am to
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Poor execution is what cost us our losses this year.


LSU has executed poorly since the 2008 season started. When does it fall on the coaching? After 6 years of poor execution? After 7?
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:07 am to
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With the talent we have and the in state talent every year, its a top job.


top 10? sure. I'll go along with that. But LSU is not on the same level as Bama, Texas, Florida or USC.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:08 am to
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Exactly. How many head coaches can you name that set their ego aside and let someone else completely run half of their football team with no input from the man in charge?


then there lies the problem. Maybe we just need a new man in charge. You said it for me. Making 4 million plus and you're supposed to be an OL/offensive guy and they are the two worst units on the team?
Posted by JBeam
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Member since Jan 2011
68377 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:08 am to
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I'm sure you'll call me a moron and an idiot but I think James Franklin is a fine coach.

I just don't see how anyone other than Les can be happy with an offense that's consistently ranked in the 70's. I honestly don't know if he sees it as a problem spot.

James Franklin or Charlie Strong are my top picks fpr HC.

Strong will only add to his resume if he's able to take the ACC by storm next season.

Franklin, just fires me up because he has all this energy and his players are the exact same
Posted by blowmeauburn
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2006
8062 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:08 am to
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What makes an OC legit? I dunno, what makes any coach legit. Winning. Hire a respectable and proven guy and get the frick out of his way


We make running an offense look so fricking hard its infuriating.

Just pick a scheme and an identity, recruit players that match it, and quit making every fricking play so predictable.
Posted by Elleshoe
Wade’s World
Member since Jun 2004
143780 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:08 am to
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James Franklin or Charlie Strong are my top picks fpr HC.

Strong will only add to his resume if he's able to take the ACC by storm next season.

Franklin, just fires me up because he has all this energy and his players are the exact same


I'd love to have either over the jamook we have running the team now.
Posted by Rohan2Reed
Member since Nov 2003
75674 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:09 am to
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then there lies the problem. Maybe we just need a new man in charge. You said it for me. Making 4 million plus and you're supposed to be an OL/offensive guy and they are the two worst units on the team?


Well we all know that's not happening unless Miles has back-to-back losing seasons in the near future. Or decides to retire before his contract is up. But I don't see that happening either.
Posted by TigerSinceBirth4Life
BR
Member since Sep 2007
1590 posts
Posted on 1/8/13 at 1:10 am to
So should Chavis get fired? Because when you get down to the brass tacks, we were winning both the Bama and Clemson games with 2 minutes left. How much of the D does Miles control?
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